Corruption in College Basketball

[HoosierAloha]

"Louisville, North Carolina State, Kansas, Arizona, LSU, USC, Oklahoma State, South Carolina and Auburn. TCU, Creighton and Clemson" 
Lesson? Those schools listed were incredibly sloppy. Kentucky, Duke & No Carolina laugh at their amateurish antics while wiping their butts with the NCAA rulebook and burning piles of Nike's money. Pathetic. 
Isn't Louisville the definition of "lack of institutional control"? They need the death penalty- ZERO basketball scholarships for 2 seasons, but let them have a team of walk-ons. That MIGHT get someone's attention.  

What’s funny is Uof6 would end up with a team of top 100 recruits as walk ons and the NCAA wouldn’t find anything wrong with that...


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[AKHoosier]

My guess is the list of 6 schools to be named will not be a very sexy list:

Creighton
NC State
USC
South Carolina
Auburn
Oklahoma State

Then they'll take the rest of the summer to decide if they want to punish Arizona, Louisville, and Kansas.

No way they touch Duke, they're way too chickensh1t.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, AKHoosier said:

My guess is the list of 6 schools to be named will not be a very sexy list:

Creighton
NC State
USC
South Carolina
Auburn
Oklahoma State

Then they'll take the rest of the summer to decide if they want to punish Arizona, Louisville, and Kansas.

No way they touch Duke, they're way too chickensh1t.

I guess I don't understand how Arizona couldn't be on that list...or how a team that took Curtis Jones in as a transfer could be. ;)

[MoyeNeeded]

6 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

What a shock Duke isn’t on the 

Would still like to know how Zion's folks got into that high dollar residence in that upscale neighborhood outside of Durham lol!

[biteoftheapple]

Chuck Person avoided jail time. He got supervised probation plus community service.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-corruption-trial-ex-auburn-assistant-chuck-person-avoids-prison-time/amp/

 

[Deserthoozier]

7 hours ago, biteoftheapple said:

Chuck Person avoided jail time. He got supervised probation plus community service.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-corruption-trial-ex-auburn-assistant-chuck-person-avoids-prison-time/amp/

 

The Riffleman slides by!

[HoosierCoop]

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27390195/avenatti-filing-nike-okd-payments-zion-more

OH. DEAR. GOD!!!!!!!


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[Brass Cannon]

13 minutes ago, HoosierCoop said:

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27390195/avenatti-filing-nike-okd-payments-zion-more

OH. DEAR. GOD!!!!!!!


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If Nike thought they were going to move the needle with a 20,000 dollar offer after all adidas had done for the Langford’s that’s kind of foolish 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Zero surprise here. Adidas was featured all along Romeo’s recruitment and AAU. He was no doubt a “shoe guy”, but the best usually are.


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[ElectricBoogaloo]

Hope they don’t vacate our tournament wins from last year. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27390195/avenatti-filing-nike-okd-payments-zion-more

OH. DEAR. GOD!!!!!!!


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Where’s the guy who called me foolish for thinking the Langford’s would have any involvement in this world?


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[LamarCheeks]

I'm very confused by this passage in that ESPN story -- which are the second and third graphs. They seem to contradict each other. The first graph here (second in the story) says the "offers" to Zion and Romeo provide proof that Nike execs arranged for and made payments to players and their families. The very next sentence says there is no evidence that any offers or payments were made to Zion or Romeo. Huh? 



The alleged offers -- $35,000 or more for Williamson and $20,000 for Langford -- were purportedly discovered among "text messages, e-mails and other documents from 2016-17 ... proving that Nike executives had arranged for and concealed payments, often in cash, to amateur basketball players and their families and 'handlers,'" according to the motion filed in U.S. District Court in New York.

There is no evidence that the offers or payments were made to Williamson, Langford or their families. 

[pumpfake]

26 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm very confused by this passage in that ESPN story -- which are the second and third graphs. They seem to contradict each other. The first graph here (second in the story) says the "offers" to Zion and Romeo provide proof that Nike execs arranged for and made payments to players and their families. The very next sentence says there is no evidence that any offers or payments were made to Zion or Romeo. Huh? 



The alleged offers -- $35,000 or more for Williamson and $20,000 for Langford -- were purportedly discovered among "text messages, e-mails and other documents from 2016-17 ... proving that Nike executives had arranged for and concealed payments, often in cash, to amateur basketball players and their families and 'handlers,'" according to the motion filed in U.S. District Court in New York.

There is no evidence that the offers or payments were made to Williamson, Langford or their families. 

Proof that they engaged in the practice of paying players/families/coaches but no proof of it to anyone specific.  Apparently the documentation shows that they approved making offers to the 2 named players.  IMO, it's kind of shoddy journalism, implying that they proved one thing (no one named) and try to tie in players without any evidence the players were involved or even aware of it.

That's my take on the article, anyway.

[coonhounds]

Romeo being paired with Zion is great news for IU actually. There is no chance, none, the NCAA pursues anything against Duke. There will be some dismissive remarks about Avenatti being a disreputable scumbag (no doubt true) and it will die quietly. The NCAA will then return to worshiping at it's shrine to Coach K.

Or iu self sanctions and reports violations. Doc scholarship and 1 year post season ban lol. Archie on 2 year probation

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[HoosierAloha]

Or iu self sanctions and reports violations. Doc scholarship and 1 year post season ban lol. Archie on 2 year probation

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Dook does the complete opposite and forces Nike to increase their salary cap. Dook lands a Bron Bron James for the 2019 class. The Lakers report that LeBron has taken a leave of absence for the year..


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[BGleas]

56 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

Proof that they engaged in the practice of paying players/families/coaches but no proof of it to anyone specific.  Apparently the documentation shows that they approved making offers to the 2 named players.  IMO, it's kind of shoddy journalism, implying that they proved one thing (no one named) and try to tie in players without any evidence the players were involved or even aware of it.

That's my take on the article, anyway.

I don't think it's really shoddy journalism. They're saying there is proof that Nike offered money to Zion and Romeo. There is no proof that either player accepted that money. With the available info though, we can make the assumption that Nike does engage in paying high school basketball players. 

[LamarCheeks]

19 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I don't think it's really shoddy journalism. They're saying there is proof that Nike offered money to Zion and Romeo. There is no proof that either player accepted that money. With the available info though, we can make the assumption that Nike does engage in paying high school basketball players. 

The story specifically says "there is no evidence that the offers or payments were made to Williamson, Langford or their families." ... How is that proof that Nike offered money to Zion and Romeo? And how is that proof that Nike arranged for payments to players and their families? ... The writing of that article is very unclear. 

[BGleas]

3 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

The story specifically says "there is no evidence that the offers or payments were made to Williamson, Langford or their families." ... How is that proof that Nike offered money to Zion and Romeo? And how is that proof that Nike arranged for payments to players and their families? ... The writing of that article is very unclear. 

You're right. I read that incorrectly. The first paragraph says there is evidence and the second says there is no evidence. Gotcha. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Bottom line -- there's too much vagueness and contradiction in the ESPN story to really know the true story.  At the very least, the Langfords turned Nike down - if Nike even offered - as they stuck with Adidas.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

The story specifically says "there is no evidence that the offers or payments were made to Williamson, Langford or their families." ... How is that proof that Nike offered money to Zion and Romeo? And how is that proof that Nike arranged for payments to players and their families? ... The writing of that article is very unclear. 

It’s all about the wording.

Nike was willing to offer that much for those players. Appears confirmed through texts, etc.

Did Nike actually offer it? Unclear, no evidence

Did families accept? No evidence.


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