WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Interesting readhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28919170/christian-dawkins-details-ties-arizona-sean-miller-new-hbo-filmSent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkYeah, 6 figure players were very common. Look forward to watching that show. Thanks for posting. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
AKHoosier Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Will Wade: "We can compensate better than the rookie minimum" "We'd give him more than the D League" Wade and Sean Miller are gigantic pieces of sh1t that should not be allowed to coach in the NCAA any longer. I don't understand how either of them have jobs right now. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/new-hbo-doc-provides-audio-of-will-wade-sean-miller-talking-about-pay-for-play-schemes-in-college-basketball/ Stuhoo, jk34, Class of '66 Old Fart and 2 others 5 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Will Wade: "We can compensate better than the rookie minimum" "We'd give him more than the D League" Wade and Sean Miller are gigantic pieces of sh1t that should not be allowed to coach in the NCAA any longer. I don't understand how either of them have jobs right now. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/new-hbo-doc-provides-audio-of-will-wade-sean-miller-talking-about-pay-for-play-schemes-in-college-basketball/NCAA turns a blind eye because the structure of what was happening benefitted everyone. Now that info is out in the public though, you’d think they would have to respond. Maybe they will one day, but letting time pass like they do, lowers everyone’s hatred and reaction day by day. All I know, is I wish Indiana could have be successful during the one n done era of college hoops. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MikeRoberts 1 Quote
JerryYeagley23 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 1:04 PM, AKHoosier said: Will Wade: "We can compensate better than the rookie minimum" "We'd give him more than the D League" Wade and Sean Miller are gigantic pieces of sh1t that should not be allowed to coach in the NCAA any longer. I don't understand how either of them have jobs right now. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/new-hbo-doc-provides-audio-of-will-wade-sean-miller-talking-about-pay-for-play-schemes-in-college-basketball/ Wowwww. That’s really bad for Wade. His own voice. If he keeps his job it really is shame on you LSU. 8bucks 1 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 If Kansas wasn't a blueblood (or any other blueblood besides IU) they would get hammered. I hope it happens to Kansas, but I won't hold my breathhttps://www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/08/kansas-basketball-scandal-bill-self-tj-gassnolaSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk MikeRoberts 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 If Kansas wasn't a blueblood (or any other blueblood besides IU) they would get hammered. I hope it happens to Kansas, but I won't hold my breathhttps://www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/08/kansas-basketball-scandal-bill-self-tj-gassnolaSent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkI definitely get the cynicism shown by a lot of people. But the biggest issue the NCAA always has had is getting anything concrete. All you had to do prior is deny, deny, deny. These are legal documents and recordings. I just don’t see how they don’t come down on Kansas. I keep seeing all of the money Kansas makes the NCAA. That’s not entirely true. March Madness makes the NCAA a ton of money. The most money. Did anyone in the 70’s feel the NCAA could survive without an Indiana or UCLA being constantly good? Probably not if we would have asked. It’s better when a Kansas is good, but the NCAA is at a crossroads and if they don’t come down on them with 5 level 1’s they are dead. IMO. If I am wrong I will have lost any shred of faith in all of this and honestly it just won’t mean much to me anymore. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MikeRoberts, woodenshoemanHoosierfan, 8bucks and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 I definitely get the cynicism shown by a lot of people. But the biggest issue the NCAA always has had is getting anything concrete. All you had to do prior is deny, deny, deny. These are legal documents and recordings. I just don’t see how they don’t come down on Kansas. I keep seeing all of the money Kansas makes the NCAA. That’s not entirely true. March Madness makes the NCAA a ton of money. The most money. Did anyone in the 70’s feel the NCAA could survive without an Indiana or UCLA being constantly good? Probably not if we would have asked. It’s better when a Kansas is good, but the NCAA is at a crossroads and if they don’t come down on them with 5 level 1’s they are dead. IMO. If I am wrong I will have lost any shred of faith in all of this and honestly it just won’t mean much to me anymore. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appNCAA worried about the power 5 disbanding and taking the associated monies with it. Louisville so far has got off easy. UNC miraculously dodged what they had coming. Imo, NCAA knows exactly what is going on, and didn’t want it highlighted but the FBI exposure is forcing their hand from a perception standpoint. It’ll be interesting. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app mdn82, 8bucks, HoosierAloha and 2 others 5 Quote
mdn82 Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 NCAA worried about the power 5 disbanding and taking the associated monies with it. Louisville so far has got off easy. UNC miraculously dodged what they had coming. Imo, NCAA knows exactly what is going on, and didn’t want it highlighted but the FBI exposure is forcing their hand from a perception standpoint. It’ll be interesting. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appThey do know what’s going on. UNC dealt with academics. I agree they should have been hammered, but that’s something UNC was able to fight with the reach NCAA made then. This is recordings, notes, letters, emails, etc. you paying players. Even Kansas own fans know they are about to get hammered and most hope it’s a one year thing for postseason ban and Self gets one year suspended. That’s what their fans are mostly hoping for on various boards. But with this response from the NCAA to Kansas response means we are a couple of months from knowing what is handed down. Then the appeal. If they go to the independent board to weigh in on this I wonder what the timeline changes to. I really have zero doubts Kansas and Self get hammered. Their boards almost gave that IU feel at the end of Sampsongate. Kind of weird the majority of them are resigned to the fact they are going to get hammered. I didn’t expect that. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MikeRoberts, LIHoosier and mamasa 3 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 The 18th anniversary of Allen Iverson's famous rant was a couple days ago, so I modified it to reflect the absurdity of the NCAA slamming us while letting UNC, others get off scot-free ... "We in here talkin' 'bout phone calls. I mean, listen ... we talkin' 'bout phone calls. Not academic fraud. Not paying recruits. Not stripper parties. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. Not hookers. Not setting up illegal payments. Phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. I mean, how silly is that, man! ... What are we talkin' about? Phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. ... It's strange to me, too, but we here talkin' 'bout phone calls!" ALASKA HOOSIER, MikeRoberts, HoosierAloha and 3 others 6 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: The 18th anniversary of Allen Iverson's famous rant was a couple days ago, so I modified it to reflect the absurdity of the NCAA slamming us while letting UNC, others get off scot-free ... "We in here talkin' 'bout phone calls. I mean, listen ... we talkin' 'bout phone calls. Not academic fraud. Not paying recruits. Not stripper parties. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. Not hookers. Not setting up illegal payments. Phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. I mean, how silly is that, man! ... What are we talkin' about? Phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. We talkin' 'bout phone calls. ... It's strange to me, too, but we here talkin' 'bout phone calls!" Had we handled it in house imagine how different things would have been MikeRoberts 1 Quote
TheWatShot Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 I really don't know why anyone still thinks the NCAA slammed us. We turned ourselves in, got down on our knees, spilled our guts and begged for mercy. The NCAA basically just sort of giggled and said "ok, enjoy your walk-ons!" MikeRoberts 1 Quote
JSHoosier Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, TheWatShot said: I really don't know why anyone still thinks the NCAA slammed us. We turned ourselves in, got down on our knees, spilled our guts and begged for mercy. The NCAA basically just sort of giggled and said "ok, enjoy your walk-ons!" We didn't even beg for mercy, we self sanctioned the NCAA just accepted the sanctions. We spilled out guts, said here's what we're doing and the NCAA said "really, okay then". mookied39 and MikeRoberts 1 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Zion Williamson’s former marketing agent has served requests for admission in their lawsuit asking him (Williamson) to admit that he received “money, benefits, favors or other things of value” to attend Duke University and to wear and/or use Nike and Adidas. That's the extent of what I saw online. mdn82, mamasa, MikeRoberts and 2 others 5 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Zion Williamson’s former marketing agent has served requests for admission in their lawsuit asking him (Williamson) to admit that he received “money, benefits, favors or other things of value” to attend Duke University and to wear and/or use Nike and Adidas. That's the extent of what I saw online. Interesting Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Zion Williamson’s former marketing agent has served requests for admission in their lawsuit asking him (Williamson) to admit that he received “money, benefits, favors or other things of value” to attend Duke University and to wear and/or use Nike and Adidas. That's the extent of what I saw online. Here is an article https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-basketball/news/zion-williamson-agent-impermissible-duke/1htqe60awhsnq1avosz37oksxo?__twitter_impression=trueSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Class of '66 Old Fart and MikeRoberts 1 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Here is an article https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-basketball/news/zion-williamson-agent-impermissible-duke/1htqe60awhsnq1avosz37oksxo?__twitter_impression=trueSent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkThe problem the NCAA now faces is that they have turned their head for so long and let some of these schools become so corrupt that others jumped on board and now there aren’t just a few, there are a bunch and proof of this cheating on many of them is coming out all at once. If they had to reprimand one or two, no big deal, but now there are at least 8 that I can think of that there is solid proof of cheating and it will be hard to slap them all with punishmentSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
8bucks Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 Here is an article https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-basketball/news/zion-williamson-agent-impermissible-duke/1htqe60awhsnq1avosz37oksxo?__twitter_impression=trueSent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkWhy would Zion admit to receiving anything? Is he legally obligated?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hutch89 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted May 11, 2020 Author Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, 8bucks said: Why would Zion admit to receiving anything? Is he legally obligated? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app No. He is not. 8bucks 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 No. He is not.Deny, deny, settlement. That’s what I see in our future.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ElectricBoogaloo and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 Zion is getting sued by this person can they ask him in a deposition if he got paid to play for Duke. Zion would risk perjury in this case right? Assuming the agent has some legit proof Quote
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