Maynard Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, Adillac said: Low scoring teams don't win big. Offense beats defense in the end. Billy Donovan's teams only averaged 5ppg more than Bennett's and his highest scoring teams were not during his championship years. IUsafety, ThisIsIndiana11, GloryDays and 4 others 7 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, uncle_t13 said: By that logic his "down" years must be roughly the same as his "good" years. The year he won Nat'l COY, he went 1-1 in the tournament as well. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app No his down years are 7th seeds and 5th in conference. And he still goes to the NCAAs. His up years are top 2 seeds. It took coach K like 12 years to get past the sweet sixteen more than once. Winning is more about getting to the tourney every year as a high seed. Which Bennett does CR3AMnCR1MS0N, ALASKA HOOSIER and thebigweave 3 Quote
ramadden13 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: That, and the IU folks who were mean to his sister are much farther in the rear view mirror. And it's a MUCH better positioned job than it was at that time. Tom White, Stuhoo and lillurk 3 Quote
Jeff_Boy_Ardee Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Just curious, other than 1 Elite Eight run, what has Bennett done or won that Crean didn't also do at IU? What is his draw for all of you? A handful of conference titles (we already know no one at IU cares about those) and mostly disappointing tournament runs? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appCurious, what does your wish list look like? Tom White 1 Quote
CrossboneIU22 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, RedsIUfan said: A 1000 to fire and a 1000 to hire. The question is, can we get to 1000 here before 247 gets to 1000 there? Now granted, they have a head start because theirs started prior to Crean getting fired, but if we got the Fire Crean Page to 1000, I know we can do it again with this one. Currently it's: HSN247 - 445 BTB - 147 298 pages to catch up. ALASKA HOOSIER and RedsIUfan 2 Quote
HOOsier Thunder Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, uncle_t13 said: By that logic his "down" years must be roughly the same as his "good" years. The year he won Nat'l COY, he went 1-1 in the tournament as well. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Because his best player was injured. Often overlooked in the discussion of Bennett's tournament success is the fact that in 4 of his 5 tournament appearances at Virginia one of his two best players has been injured (2012 - Brogdon, Harris; 2014 - Gill; 2015 - Anderson; 2017 - Wilkins). Last year was the only year he has had a reasonably healthy team and they steamrolled to the Elite Eight before losing a heartbreaker to a conference opponent with a Hall of Fame coach. Speaking of which, the coaches who had eliminated him prior to Mike White this year - Donovan, Izzo, Izzo, Boeheim. That speaks more to bad luck and small sample size than any real evidence he can't win in the tournament. Edited March 22, 2017 by HOOsier Thunder Tom White, GloryDays and thebigweave 3 Quote
Popular Post IU Hoosier41 Posted March 22, 2017 Popular Post Posted March 22, 2017 I'm not sold on Bennett interested in IU. He turned us down once, why would he come now? He turned us down when we were 300 pounds with a face full of acne. We've slimmed down to 130 pounds with the occasional zit. Big difference in timing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Dalton26, Class of '66 Old Fart, IUsafety and 11 others 14 Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, Treesh said: I'm not sold on Bennett interested in IU. He turned us down once, why would he come now? Different situations. The program isn't a dumpster fire right now. ALASKA HOOSIER, thebigweave, Class of '66 Old Fart and 3 others 6 Quote
coonhounds Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 The question is, can we get to 1000 here before 247 gets to 1000 there? Now granted, they have a head start because theirs started prior to Crean getting fired, but if we got the Fire Crean Page to 1000, I know we can do it again with this one. Currently it's: HSN247 - 445 BTB - 147 298 pages to catch up.We dont have enough posters acting connected posting insane stories lolSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave, IUsafety, IU Hoosier41 and 4 others 7 Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, uncle_t13 said: Just curious, other than 1 Elite Eight run, what has Bennett done or won that Crean didn't also do at IU? What is his draw for all of you? A handful of conference titles (we already know no one at IU cares about those) and mostly disappointing tournament runs? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app For starters his teams actually play defense, and quite well usually. Please don't tell me your wishlist includes Dana "I coach defense worse than Crean" Altman. thebigweave, Class of '66 Old Fart and HOOsier Thunder 3 Quote
VO5 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 27 minutes ago, BGleas said: I'm going to assume you haven't watched the NBA in a long time? The isolation, one-on-one style of the 90's went away a long time ago. The 2015 Spurs (the year the won the title?) were an amazing offensive basketball team. If someone asked me to teach them offensive basketball I would just put in a tape of what they did to the Heat in the Finals. Have you watched the Warriors, Celtics, etc.? Also, NBA defenses are infinitely more sophisticated than college defenses. This mantra that NBA team don't play defense has always been a fallacy. Wrong thread, but figured we'd need some help to get to 1,000 pages... This is absolutely correct. While I enjoy the college game more, the NBA (in particular the Warriors and Spurs) have amazing offensive sets and chemistry. Watch the warriors this year on offense. The passing and court awareness is off the charts. And also, it's really hard to play D in the NBA when you're going against the most offensively gifted players in the world night in and night out. BGleas 1 Quote
Benziu Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Ill go on record as saying if Donovan doesn't happen Tony Bennett is my 2nd choice. Full Disclosure, I've been looking at Kenpom stats for the last 30 minutes so my opinion might be a little clouded by all those years in a row of being in the top 5 defenses. Edited March 22, 2017 by Benziu Addition ALASKA HOOSIER, IUsafety, thebigweave and 2 others 5 Quote
NCHoosier Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, Benziu said: Ill go on record as saying if Donovan doesn't happen Tony Bennett is my 2nd choice. I think you share that sentiment with many posters/lurkers on the board. At least all of us who are not concerned with one Tourney loss where one of his worst teams in years failed to eclipse 40 points. HOOsier Thunder, VO5, CR3AMnCR1MS0N and 4 others 7 Quote
TrueHoosier62 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, IU Hoosier41 said: He turned us down when we were 300 pounds with a face full of acne. We've slimmed down to 130 pounds with the occasional zit. Big difference in timing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app This sounds like something I'd have written. lol. God help us all. IU Hoosier41, ALASKA HOOSIER and sirhoosierlot 3 Quote
VO5 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Agree with those above. If Donovan isn't the choice, Bennett and Marshall are my 2a and 2b. Those guys just win. ALASKA HOOSIER, HOOsier Thunder and Btownclouds 3 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, IU Hoosier41 said: He turned us down when we were 300 pounds with a face full of acne. We've slimmed down to 130 pounds with the occasional zit. Big difference in timing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app No wonder we didn't get Mr Right hsrtxp, ALASKA HOOSIER and Stuhoo 3 Quote
Josh Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 We saw the story slamming Gregg Marshall's wife...but it appears Archie Miller's wife has had an embarrassing moment too. What's good for one candidate is good for the other.https://www.google.com/amp/www.thesportsbank.net/northwestern-wildcats/morgan-miller-dayton-coach-wife-rips-northwestern-basketball-after-loss/amp/Hire Billy! That would be outstanding Happydaze 1 Quote
Adillac Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: YES! And THAT is why Tom Crean and Steve Alford have consistently won big and gotten to the Final Fo...huh, what? Surely there is somewhere between low scoring and high scoring? Where did I say Crean's offense is what I hope for? Why must we go to the opposite? Quote
HoshPoint_0 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Just curious, other than 1 Elite Eight run, what has Bennett done or won that Crean didn't also do at IU? What is his draw for all of you? A handful of conference titles (we already know no one at IU cares about those) and mostly disappointing tournament runs? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appConstantly wins, always competitive, always in tourney. His teams play hard... the exact opposite of FCTC Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Tom White, Brass Cannon, Kepner and 1 other 4 Quote
Cheaney40 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 From Rabjohns : Where the Indiana coaching search stands2:09 PM So, where does Indiana’s coaching search stand right now in the actual process? What is happening right now is the search firm that Indiana hired, Parker Executive Search, is in the process of reaching out to coaches to gauge the interest level of those coaches. Where this starts is with any coach at any level with whom IU would like to discuss it’s opening. At this point, Peegs.com has confirmed IU has gotten positive feed back from several coaches, all of whom are currently on our updated coaching Hot Board. Now, more coaches could be contacted by the search firm today, tomorrow, next week. I don’t want to put specific names in this report just yet to avoid giving the impression that timing of communication is indicative of level of interest, either from IU in a coach or a coach in IU. Sometimes timing of communication can be related to travel, still being the NCAA Tournament, a coach needing to sit down with his representation before responding, etc. These are people who have and can offer multi-million dollar contracts. The point of this note is more about where the process stands right now and how it is most likely to unfold in the next few days, and beyond. Here is what we have been told by multiple sources on that front: After Parker gets feedback — positive or negative — from the coaches IU wants to reach, that will be gathered and presented to decision makers at IU. At that point, IU will go through the feedback, see what they feel is learned from the feedback and proceed with interviews. As far as timing, getting to the point of starting interviews probably isn’t a 24-hour situation. It may not even be a 48-hour situation. It could be a couple days before interviews start in earnest. With coaching searches, things can change at any point in time. That’s just the nature of these situations. But at this point in time, IU wants to proceed in a thoughtful and unrushed manner. The goal is to fully vet all options and make the right decision, not make a fast decision. The focus is on the next 10 years or more of IU basketball, not the next 10 hours of a coaching search. Obviously, if something wild happens, IU has the ability to shift course at any point in time and make a beeline for someone. At this point in time, we’re told IU wants a more thoughtful, thorough process that includes letting Parker do background on a number of candidates. No contract offers have been made. There are no secret deals with any coaching candidate. As Brian Snow reported in his note earlier today, Indiana athletic director Fred Glass is following through on his promise to reach out to basketball people in this state and get their feedback, and he is doing it personally. So, again, Indiana is in the information gathering stage, as things stand right now, and will proceed from there. Tom White, lillurk, Kepner and 1 other 4 Quote
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