Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Trish]

You draft on potential, not skill set. If we drafted on skill set all the time, Yogi would've been a top 5 pick. Frank Mason would be a top 5 pick as well.

 

OG has tremendous upside as a SF in today's league. I call him a baby Kawhi. He's got incredible length, strength, and defense. Assuming he recovers fully, he's going to be a nice player in the NBA. I see him going 10th-18th.

[HinnyHoosier]

Well we knew it was coming, but still a bit of a bummer to actually see it happening. I'll root for him the same as our others.

Now I'm gonna have to give in and buy NBA league pass.


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[HoosiersLoveBanners]

3 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Good for him you aren't the one making the decisions :) haha

I hope he gets a great deal. He has a lot of potential just like Oladipo did. 

Not too worried about him.

I think his best interests are to come back and develop. I know that's not the popular opinion. He's not going to be doing much of anything next year or couple years. It's easy to say go take the money. But, a couple million minus fifty percent (maybe more depending where) and then you're not even getting to agent costs etc. It's really not that much money. Certainly not enough to live on your entire life.

A lot of people have been picked on "potential". That's a word you hear a lot but rarely ever do players live up to it fully.

Keep in mind, if he turns into an NBA superstar, I would happily eat my crow. I just don't see it.

 

[ramadden13]

I'm going to root for OG but I wouldn't touch him in the first round. Not this year. No footwork at all. He will not create the separation needed at the NBA level. Travel MACHINE before he got hurt. He needed to come back and play to develop and not just go ride pine. 
He will only rebound and dunk at the next level. Can't create his own shot yet. 
Just my .02
 

No one drafting OG is doing so under the belief that he's a finished product. He'd be a perfect pick in the mid-late first round for a team with playoff potential that won't expect him to start. Then he'll be able to work on his skill development as his career without having to go to school, start for a team, etc.


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[Dalton26]

Congrats OG go get that money young fella.

 

 

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[Capt. Crimson]

4 minutes ago, HoosiersLoveBanners said:

I think his best interests are to come back and develop. I know that's not the popular opinion. He's not going to be doing much of anything next year or couple years. It's easy to say go take the money. But, a couple million minus fifty percent (maybe more depending where) and then you're not even getting to agent costs etc. It's really not that much money. Certainly not enough to live on your entire life.

A lot of people have been picked on "potential". That's a word you hear a lot but rarely ever do players live up to it fully.

Keep in mind, if he turns into an NBA superstar, I would happily eat my crow. I just don't see it.

 

He has just as much of an ability to develop in the NBA. With his stock as high as it is, it's really not going to get any better.

[Trish]

5 minutes ago, HoosiersLoveBanners said:

I think his best interests are to come back and develop. I know that's not the popular opinion. He's not going to be doing much of anything next year or couple years. It's easy to say go take the money. But, a couple million minus fifty percent (maybe more depending where) and then you're not even getting to agent costs etc. It's really not that much money. Certainly not enough to live on your entire life.

A lot of people have been picked on "potential". That's a word you hear a lot but rarely ever do players live up to it fully.

Keep in mind, if he turns into an NBA superstar, I would happily eat my crow. I just don't see it.

 

 

Too big of a risk to return and get hurt again. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Mike Miller:  Clifton Moore's AAU coach says last night's meeting with Archie Miller went well, but Moore has not yet made a final decision

[goonaha]

No teams are going to let a 6'8 small forward with a 7'6 wingspan fall through to the second round. Good luck to OG 

[Hoosierfan2017]

We barely knew ya OG. Hopefully this leads to  Justin Smith coming here. 

[goonaha]

I feel like this announcement should make Justin Smith's decision to stay with IU pretty easy. There's now plenty of minutes available at the 3. 

[Hovadipo]

Good for OG. Just means I get to add to the use of Yogi, Troy, Zeller, Vonleh, Victor and EJ in 2K.


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Hopefully Troy and Yogi get face scans on '18.

Good luck OG. Live the dream.

[Trish]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

 

Hopefully Troy and Yogi get face scans on '18.

Good luck OG. Live the dream.

 

They should. They've already been touring the country getting new scans and jumpshots. 

[gfunk69]

You draft on potential, not skill set. If we drafted on skill set all the time, Yogi would've been a top 5 pick. Frank Mason would be a top 5 pick as well.
 
OG has tremendous upside as a SF in today's league. I call him a baby Kawhi. He's got incredible length, strength, and defense. Assuming he recovers fully, he's going to be a nice player in the NBA. I see him going 10th-18th.

To add to that he could be a monster as a small ball 4. Dude is jacked so I'm sure he has some functional strength to go with that. And at the 4 he'd be one of the most athletic players. If he adds a post game he will be fine and not have to be able to create his own shot

[Cheaney40]

Been away for quite a while .... anything to know that's not currently out there in the media about who's staying and going?  I saw OG (with agent) and Blackmon (without) ... any chatter about Bryant?  Any talk of anyone being "Creaned" (can we still use that term?) to make room for incoming freshmen ... 

sorry if i'm causing the thread to repeat itself ... 

[Capt. Crimson]

1 minute ago, Cheaney40 said:

Been away for quite a while .... anything to know that's not currently out there in the media about who's staying and going?  I saw OG (with agent) and Blackmon (without) ... any chatter about Bryant?  Any talk of anyone being "Creaned" (can we still use that term?) to make room for incoming freshmen ... 

sorry if i'm causing the thread to repeat itself ... 

That's all we know at the moment outside of the new assistant coaching/staff news.

[Dalton26]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

You draft on potential, not skill set. If we drafted on skill set all the time, Yogi would've been a top 5 pick. Frank Mason would be a top 5 pick as well.

 

OG has tremendous upside as a SF in today's league. I call him a baby Kawhi. He's got incredible length, strength, and defense. Assuming he recovers fully, he's going to be a nice player in the NBA. I see him going 10th-18th.

Not always true or I think Troy would've been drafted. He's always had the potential to do great things but his skill set looked like he was Europe bound. 

 

I agree though, I think OG will be just fine in the NBA. There really is no benefit for kids in his position to stay in school, if he comes back and destroys his knee then he just passed up on potential millions. He can always get that degree, but the chance to make life changing money wont always be there.

[Cheaney40]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

That's all we know at the moment outside of the new assistant coaching/staff news.

Thanks!  

 

[LamarCheeks]

Sorry to see OG, go. But knowing sooner rather than later will be beneficial. At least his decision is final, so Archie won't have to wait till May 24 to know what his plans are. 

[ramadden13]

Mike Miller‏ @MikeMillerHT  1h1 hour ago

Clifton Moore's AAU coach says last night's meeting with Archie Miller went well, but Moore has not yet made a final decision. #iubb