Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I could see IU and Butler being in play here. He committed to VCU because of coach Wade and when he left he had no reason to stay. I know Butler was after him but I'm not sure how much real interest Crean showed in him. 

Why do we keep wondering if so and so would fit here because they are transferring. As of right now we have no slots left to fill so it's moot.

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[Brass Cannon]

26 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:

Why do we keep wondering if so and so would fit here because they are transferring. As of right now we have no slots left to fill so it's moot.

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He's an 18 recruit we could have 7 openings for 18

[ap2345]

51 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:

Why do we keep wondering if so and so would fit here because they are transferring. As of right now we have no slots left to fill so it's moot.

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Well... What Brass Cannon said. 

[ap2345]

For everyone that doesn't already know: 

Top 2018 Indiana kids according to 247 sports.

Romeo Langford - New Albany - 5 star

Robert Phinisee - McCutcheon - 3 star

Eric Hunter - Tindley - 4 star

Kevin Easley - Lawrence North - 4 star

Damezi Anderson - SB Riley - 4 star

Musa Jallow - Bloomington North 4 star

Franklin Agunanne - La Lumiere - 4 star

 

 

[VO5]

6 hours ago, ap2345 said:

For everyone that doesn't already know: 

Top 2018 Indiana kids according to 247 sports.

Romeo Langford - New Albany - 5 star

Robert Phinisee - McCutcheon - 3 star

Eric Hunter - Tindley - 4 star

Kevin Easley - Lawrence North - 4 star

Damezi Anderson - SB Riley - 4 star

Musa Jallow - Bloomington North 4 star

Franklin Agunanne - La Lumiere - 4 star

 

 

Surprised to see Phinisee is a 3 star

[Stromboli]

9 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

I think the absolute best case scenario for Gelon at this point is him realizing it's best to move on, finding a D-II school where he can have an immediate impact, play 3 more years, meet a nice girl and live happily ever after.

First off, if you followed Mr. Gelon on Instagram you'd know he's already met a nice girl.  She's a total smokeshow, and she's crazy about him.  I thought about posting a pic, but feel that's a little creepy and over the line.  Just take my word, Grant is doing just fine.

Next, best case for Mr. Gelon would be to work himself into a productive role at Indiana.  He has good size and good athleticism (hard to know this since he got very few minutes this year).  He came in as a shooter, and was 60% from 3 this year.  There is no reason he can't be a Zeisloft guy as he gets older.  Zeisloft became a huge part of a great team.

Lastly...  This is just me, but I feel like your post is an example of why there is some hesitation to call IU a great place to play.  Indiana fans seem just as happy to turn against their own players as to cheer for them.  That, to me, is not a good fan.  A good fan accepts the players and hopes for them to play well, not to get replaced by a better prospect.  We hated when Crean dumped his own guys.  Indiana high school coaches hate it. And I'm sure that the players hate it.  I'm going to coin a new phrase here.  Let's Crean the Crean.  

We are going to be VERY LUCKY to have our team next year be the same guys as last year.  Let's be grateful for that.  From the looks of it, we may have the exact same guys, with the addition of Justin Smith and Collin Hartman (OG is gone, but he was out anyway).  Add to this a season of maturity and experience, and ideally better coaching and defense.  Let's realize we're in a better position now than last year, and not turn against our own guys.  Then go all in on dissecting the 2018 class, which will be huge and won't require dumping our own guys.

[Stuhoo]

31 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Surprised to see Phinisee is a 3 star

 

He no longer is:

Robert Phinisee
Lafayette, IN (Mccutcheon) Point Guard

Ht 5-11 Wt 160 CLASS OF 18
247Sports Composite
0.9514       4*
Natl Comp
93
Pos PG
20
St IN
2

 

[Stuhoo]

Does anyone else find it curious that neither OG nor TB have declared for draft analysis yet (even without an agent)? I know that the declaration deadline is not until April 23, but still...

If they don't do so by about next Monday, I am going to start to be very intrigued and guardedly optimistic.

 

[JSHoosier]

11 hours ago, ChiHoosier5 said:

I am in no way a Gelon supporter. I don't think he should have ever been offered a scholarship at IU. However, keeping him isn't the worst thing. Like Archie said previously about using all 13 scholarships, someone isn't going to be happy. Maybe Grant knows and accepts his role and can develop into a role player as a Junior or Senior, maybe he can eventually turn into something similar to Hartman. Remember when many wanted him "Creaned" after his Fresh or Soph season, now we are rejoicing he's coming back. Let's give him time to develop and bulk up.

I think we are accustomed to wanting guys to come in as Freshman and start delivering right away. During the Crean tenure we had some many transfers that we had few players that we had for 4 years and were able to see develop over time and see them start contributing.  

When many were writing Hartman off I was pretty consistently saying if he had the opportunity I thought he could develop into a solid role player here.  I don't have the same feeling about Gelon.

[Trish]

22 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Does anyone else find it curious that neither OG nor TB have declared for draft analysis yet (even without an agent)? I know that the declaration deadline is not until April 23, but still...

If they don't do so by about next Monday, I am going to start to be very intrigued and guardedly optimistic.

 

I think Bryant loves college to much to leave for the G-League.

 

OG on the other hand is interesting like you said.. maybe he's still searching for an agent. Waiting for the right agent to offer that "special" deal.

 

 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

I think Bryant loves college to much to leave for the G-League.

 

OG on the other hand is interesting like you said.. maybe he's still searching for an agent. Waiting for the right agent to offer that "special" deal.

 

 

 

No no...it's not that they haven't "found the right agent" yet. It's that they haven't even declared for the draft without an agent so that they can be evaluated.

 

[ramadden13]

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/04/06/four-star-guard-robert-phinisee-talks-iu-coaching-change-junior-season/

Miller has reached out to Phinisee already. Phinisee told ITH that Miller will be making him a priority. Good news.

[Trish]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

No no...it's not that they haven't "found the right agent" yet. It's that they haven't even declared for the draft without an agent so that they can be evaluated.

 

Didn't miller say he will announce them all together once they each decide? James and Collin were together.

 

Bryant / OG will be together I suppose. 

[Stuhoo]

• He wants to be a Hoosier.
• Archie very, very much wants him to be a Hoosier.
• We will be losing three of our current guards.

Robert Phinisee? Hoosier.

 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Didn't miller say he will announce them all together once they each decide? James and Collin were together.

 

Bryant / OG will be together I suppose. 

 

I'm confused. James and Collin were what together?

 

[Hovadipo]

 
I'm confused. James and Collin were what together?
 

Pretty sure the together thing is about the coaching staff and/or our '17 recruits.

[ramadden13]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

• He wants to be a Hoosier.
• Archie very, very much wants him to be a Hoosier.
• We will be losing three of our current guards.

Robert Phinisee? Hoosier.

 

Junior Green and Freshman Phinisee in 2018? I like that a lot. Picking up a long term PG every two years is a great way to handle the position if you're not getting 5-star talent. Means you always have an upperclassman who is experienced and an underclassman to learn, Jr/Fr and Sr/So.

[OG's Wingspan]

My personal opinion is that i think TB stays and OG goes. OG is going to be at least a first round pick from all the mock drafts I've seen, so it makes sense for him to go now. TB on the other hand could move up the draft boards if he has a better year than he did last year. And the video of him working with the other bigs gives me more of a reason to believe he's buying into CAM's message.

[Trish]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I'm confused. James and Collin were what together?

 

Announced together, staying/testing waters.

 

 

[drewheck]

They could both stay tb and og the new cba is a major pay bump next year what would be 4 mil a year now would be 7 mil a year next year with a weaker draft

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