Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Old Friend 8,389]

1)  There is no way Green can go anywhere in the country, lose a year of eligibility, and do any better or have more opportunity than he will here.  Street ball and college basketball aren't even close to the same game.  The difference between the two is staggering; and any player who's played for a coach who's good at game planning will tell you the discipline and attention to detail required for success are completely unknown to players who have come from un-structured environments.  Green - to succeed anywhere - has to learn how to play within a game plan and take care of the ball.  Regardless of where he goes or if he stays at Indiana; that's a truth he has to embrace.  There is a place for individual skills to rule the day.  No question.  He needs to perfect the combo.  Simple as that.

2)  I think it's foolish to compare Phinisee and Yogi until we know what talent will surround RP.  Yogi as a senior was the go to.  Somewhat as a junior, too.  RP may never be.  But I'm here to tell you he is every bit as good, if not better as a point guard.   He may never be as strong; and may never get the number or quality of shots Yogi got in Crean's system.   But he is at least as good.  Time will show it.  I have no doubt.    RP is an explosive athlete.  You didn't always see it and he didn't always show it; but he is.  RP wasn't as high profile as Yogi (hell, Yogi was national news as a 5th grader); and his AAU profile isn't as glossy.  But I think anyone who follows this game will agree rankings, once you get past 20-25 or so, are generally meaningless.    There are too many examples of successful players who were unranked; and too many flops who were.  It depends on system, opportunity, development, and myriad other things.

Those who don't yet know Phinisee's game will be pleasantly surprised.

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To be fair - yogi had a strong freshman year then was kind of meh as a leader until Blackman got injured and Dakich called his D and effort out on TV. That seemed to light a fire with him and he finished out strong.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I guess the expectation of many is rp will step on campus and be yogi from day 1. Wow I hope he is ready to live up to incredible expectations. Very rarely are frosh point guards expected to do this but I guess rp is. He ranking must be off 80 plus spots.

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[Stuhoo 82,151]

I guess the expectation of many is rp will step on campus and be yogi from day 1. Wow I hope he is ready to live up to incredible expectations. Very rarely are frosh point guards expected to do this but I guess rp is. He ranking must be off 80 plus spots.

 

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RP and Yogi are so very very different style players in almost every way.

So, I’m not expecting RP to ever be Yogi; I’m hoping he is more of a Joel Berry/Michael Lewis/Cassius Winston type.

 

 

 

 

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I’m expecting RP to step on campus and be a marked upgrade as a floor general over Newkirk. Yogi comparison is tough to even think about. Yogi started immediately playing with two lottery picks, seniors, and 1000 point career players around him.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I’m expecting RP to step on campus and be a marked upgrade as a floor general over Newkirk. Yogi comparison is tough to even think about. Yogi started immediately playing with two lottery picks, seniors, and 1000 point career players around him.


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I agree but there are people making it.

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[Crimson and Cream 5,847]

The Phinisee/Yogi comparison is unfair (at least initially) because it seems their situations will be reversed. Yogi started off as a frosh with loads of professional talent around him and then they all left and he had little help for the most part. Rob will likely start off with a roster that is lacking in talent (at least on the same level as Yogi started off with) but we all hope and assume the talent will get here throughout the next 4 years and I expect him to be a key cog on some big time contenders his junior/senior seasons.

[Myrmidon76 614]

The one thing that I think clearly has Yogi like similarity with Phinisee is how he shoots the ball. He has Yogi's level of verticality and, more importantly, he releases his shot at the very height of that verticality, just like Yogi did. I don't think Phinisee has the handles that Yogi had or the stop/start that Yogi had, but there are things that are similar. We can only hope that Robert provides a direction of improvement.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,822]

I think the 1 category Phinisee will help with is on court intelligence.

 

I think our lack shot makers will make his job WAY harder.

 

Adding Romeo or a grad transfer type that can shoot near 40% would be the best thing that could happen to RP.

 

We will have great length through the 2-4. We will lack a real 5. But shot makers at the 2 and 3, but especially the 2 will be crucial.

 

 

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[Old Friend 8,389]

I've only compared RP and Yogi as players; and nobody has to agree with me, but I think RP is at least as good if not better as a pure point guard.    It'll be better for him if Morgan hangs around, Smith develops, Davis is healthy, etc.   But Yogi has a different and stronger body; so was capable of different things.   RP is fantastic.  I saw a comparison to Michael Lewis above.  He's better than that.

[Crimson and Cream 5,847]

1 hour ago, Myrmidon76 said:

The one thing that I think clearly has Yogi like similarity with Phinisee is how he shoots the ball. He has Yogi's level of verticality and, more importantly, he releases his shot at the very height of that verticality, just like Yogi did. I don't think Phinisee has the handles that Yogi had or the stop/start that Yogi had, but there are things that are similar. We can only hope that Robert provides a direction of improvement.

And I think what Rob may lack in speed/quickness and strength that Yogi had, he makes up for with his ability to take care of the ball. I think what fans are going to appreciate the most is he understands how to take care of the ball.

[Old Friend 8,389]

4 hours ago, Crimson and Cream said:

And I think what Rob may lack in speed/quickness and strength that Yogi had, he makes up for with his ability to take care of the ball. I think what fans are going to appreciate the most is he understands how to take care of the ball.

Kinda what I was saying above.  RP is much quicker than some think he is.  The only thing that will hold him back next season would be his strength, as you mention.  And I'm not even sure about that.

[Crimson and Cream 5,847]

6 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Kinda what I was saying above.  RP is much quicker than some think he is.  The only thing that will hold him back next season would be his strength, as you mention.  And I'm not even sure about that.

I think not having any semblance of a real floor general this season is really going to lead fans to appreciate Rob next year.

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Saw a rumor on twitter Illinois Mark Smith might be transferring.

[Uspshoosier 46,779]

Saw a rumor on twitter Illinois Mark Smith might be transferring.

Top 100 kid that got outplayed by a kid with a lower ranking. Frazier is that teams pg moving forward and they have a 5 star talented SG coming in. Might not want to fight for playing time


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Top 100 kid that got outplayed by a kid with a lower ranking. Frazier is that teams pg moving forward and they have a 5 star talented SG coming in. Might not want to fight for playing time


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I remember when he absolutely blew up last minute and all the big dogs came sniffing. Seems like the kind of kid who needs a change of scenery (new coach) to get rolling in the right direction again.


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[Str8Hoosiers 2,965]

Heard some rumors that we have offered Sean East a preferred Walk On spot at IU?

Anybody else heard this? Think this is to sweeten the deal with Romeo?

[TXHoosierDaddy 1,375]

I've seen it mentioned we are looking into the JUCO route. I was able to pull up one tweet from Rabjohns. It mentions a few JUCO's though. Anyone know who else we are targeting? Thanks!

 

[TXHoosierDaddy 1,375]

27 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

I've seen it mentioned we are looking into the JUCO route. I was able to pull up one tweet from Rabjohns. It mentions a few JUCO's though. Anyone know who else we are targeting? Thanks!

 

Found this one too. 

[IUsafety 2,775]

I've seen it mentioned we are looking into the JUCO route. I was able to pull up one tweet from Rabjohns. It mentions a few JUCO's though. Anyone know who else we are targeting? Thanks!
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