Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[maharkn 1,736]

Let rojo go. Is there any grad transfer bigs out there we could get to help with size?

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[cljones1979 740]

rojo is a good all around guard. i want him to stay. he has a mid range jumper, stroke it from the 3, and he can drive to the basket. he also plays d and has big game experience.

 

[schoosier 3,480]

On 4/30/2017 at 2:19 PM, Woodson1980 said:

Dakich had a beer gut.

Just watched his 84 team beat UNC in Elite 8. YouTube very good watching. For those who want to see Bobby Knight at his best beating arguably Dean Smith's best ever team should check it out. Dakich was paired with Alford who carried us along with Uwe Blap, Marty Simmons, Mike Giomi. Now there's an all ,what would you say, limited team against Jordan, Smith, Perkins, Daughterys. Simmons and Giomi transferred and 6th man Stew had to pay his way his redshirt year. I'm ready to finally see great coaching again and Knight was the best.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

rojo is a good all around guard. i want him to stay. he has a mid range jumper, stroke it from the 3, and he can drive to the basket. he also plays d and has big game experience.
 

If we get leadership from Hartman and RoJo we will compete. If we get it from some other source we will struggle. I said the same thing before last season. Unfortunately, we had leadership from a different source.

[Chris007 44,066]

17 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I guess maybe grad transfer, but I remember reading someone say that he probably won't have enough credits to graduate this year. 

As I said he would have to take a huge summer class load to graduate before fall semester.

[Stuhoo 80,877]

 

My preferred guard rotation for this year (in order of on-court minutes) would be:

JBj, RoJo, DeVonte, Josh, Al D.

 

[Dalton26 16,892]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

My preferred guard rotation for this year (in order of on-court minutes) would be:

JBj, RoJo, DeVonte, Josh, Al D.

 

no CuJo?

[Stuhoo 80,877]

12 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

no CuJo?

 

Dunno. How good is JBj's NBA feedback gonna be?

 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

This might be a better place to discuss Newkirk vs. Green. Green made plays last season that no other player on the team would think to make. He has a natural feel for the lead guard position that Newkirk doesn't have. I believe with a summer and noncon season of heavy minutes that Green is the much better option and leads us to a better B1G record. Newkirk could get to the rim sometimes, hit some shots sometimes, and was an okay defender. Green will do all those things better.

[8bucks 6,455]

This might be a better place to discuss Newkirk vs. Green. Green made plays last season that no other player on the team would think to make. He has a natural feel for the lead guard position that Newkirk doesn't have. I believe with a summer and noncon season of heavy minutes that Green is the much better option and leads us to a better B1G record. Newkirk could get to the rim sometimes, hit some shots sometimes, and was an okay defender. Green will do all those things better.

Newkirk made more plays for himself than for others. He had more playing time but he really seemed to have nice spark for us down the stretch (when RoJo was providing very little). I think Newkirk making plays is often forgotten because he was not doing this for others or consistently during the year.

Green made some plays for others that no one else did and it will be good if that increases as he gets more time.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Newkirk made more plays for himself than for others. He had more playing time but he really seemed to have nice spark for us down the stretch (when RoJo was providing very little). I think Newkirk making plays is often forgotten because he was not doing this for others or consistently during the year.

Green made some plays for others that no one else did and it will be good if that increases as he gets more time.

Agreed, I thought Newkirk played better down the stretch. I think Green has a much higher ceiling and needs more live game action. I can see David getting better entry passes and drop offs for easy buckets, JMo slashing, and our shooters getting better looks with Green. Newkirk seems to be more of a one trick pony and not much of a lead guard that makes others better.

[goonaha 2,972]

Seeing as how neither RoJo nor JBJ got invited to the combine, shouldn't we hear soon about their decision? How much more feedback can they get without attending the combine? Can they do individual workouts with teams up until the May 26th deadline / is that within the rules?

[Brass Cannon 24,810]

15 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Seeing as how neither RoJo nor JBJ got invited to the combine, shouldn't we hear soon about their decision? How much more feedback can they get without attending the combine? Can they do individual workouts with teams up until the May 26th deadline / is that within the rules?

Pretty sure teams can still invite them to private workouts

[goonaha 2,972]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Pretty sure teams can still invite them to private workouts

If that's the case then there's still a high risk that a team tells Blackmon that they will draft him in the second round or sign him as an undrafted free agent a la Troy and Yogi. Shooting is always a valuable commodity, regardless of defensive capabilities. As much as I love RoJo, I don't see that type of guarantee being made to him. 

[HoosierX 1,567]

1 hour ago, goonaha said:

If that's the case then there's still a high risk that a team tells Blackmon that they will draft him in the second round or sign him as an undrafted free agent a la Troy and Yogi. Shooting is always a valuable commodity, regardless of defensive capabilities. As much as I love RoJo, I don't see that type of guarantee being made to him. 

No one is going to guarantee Blackmon they will draft him.  I will continue to assert that Blackmon wouldn't get drafted if there were 3 rounds.

However, if he wants to go play overseas, more power to him.  Another year in college will not help him...he is who he is at this point.

[Brass Cannon 24,810]

Nobody will guarantee he gets drafted.  There are a handful of teams I could imagine would tell him now he would get a training camp contract

[goonaha 2,972]

I'd suggest looking at second round picks from the last few drafts before emphatically saying no or that there's a 0% chance. Crazier things have happened than taking a flier on a great college scorer who you expect to shoot 40+% from 3 as a pro. 

[Chris007 44,066]

Mark Cuban says it's better to go undrafted then to get drafted in the 2nd round. Undrafted players can get guaranteed contracts, 2nd round draft picks I guess can't? But I thought Lance Stephenson got one from Larry Bird a few years ago. Maybe it's the choice of the owner-GM.

[VO5 8,272]

I'm wishing the best for Blackmon and hope he gets paid, whether that is the D-league or overseas. As an NBA player I just can't see it. James is what, 6'4? That would project him as an NBA 1 or small 2 guard. James neither has the vision or quickness to play the 1. This would leave him playing the 2 spot only. He definitely has the shooting ability to play that position, but his real trouble is on D.

Can you imagine him trying to guard the best 2s in the league, even the backups for that matter? He gets blown by on a regular basis in college. You can hide certain shooters in the league on D like Channing Frye, but only because he's versatile at 6'8. I can't point to a single 2 guard in the NBA that gets consistent minutes and doesn't play solid D. I just don't see the lateral quickness with James to ever be able to guard effectively. Again, I wish him the best and hope he proves me wrong. I just highly doubt he has any shot.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Mark Cuban says it's better to go undrafted then to get drafted in the 2nd round. Undrafted players can get guaranteed contracts, 2nd round draft picks I guess can't? But I thought Lance Stephenson got one from Larry Bird a few years ago. Maybe it's the choice of the owner-GM.

You can pick your team as an UFA. If you're drafted in the second round the team gets first shot at you.