Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[CrossboneIU22 1,193]

I know every player has a right to test his draft status -- and I'm cool with that. But I can't help but chuckle when I see that four dudes from an 18-16 team that finished 10th in its conference and lost its only NIT game have declared for the NBA. Cracks me up! 

It shouldn't crack you up. All four have the talent to possibly make the NBA one day so why not get feedback. It just goes to show how poorly coached these guys were. Honestly I'm shocked that Morgan didn't declare without an agent too just to get the feedback. There is no harm in declaring without an agent to get feedback. You can't get it or workout for teams unless you declare. It's kind of like a practice interview. Anyone would be silly not to do it even if they don't have much of a shot. I hate using Calapari as an example (just threw up in my mouth a bit) but he stated he that he encourages everyone of his kids to declare without an agent to get feedback.


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[LamarCheeks 19,097]

Just now, CrossboneIU22 said:

It shouldn't crack you up. All four have the talent to possibly make the NBA one day so why not get feedback. It just goes to show how poorly coached these guys were. Honestly I'm shocked that Morgan didn't declare without an agent too just to get the feedback. There is no harm in declaring without an agent to get feedback. You can't get it or workout for teams unless you declare. It's kind of like a practice interview. Anyone would be silly not to do it even if they don't have much of a shot. I hate using Calapari as an example (just threw up in my mouth a bit) but he stated he that he encourages everyone of his kids to declare without an agent to get feedback.


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But it does crack me up. It really, really does. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,240]

At what point are players accountable for results? I find it hard to believe the pass they are given. Coaches coach, players execute or they don't and then we blame the coaching staff?

I agree

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[Alford Bailey 12,391]

Let them go test the water and get feedback. May lose TB.

[tyappleg 3,156]

Reading some of these responses about the guys testing the waters makes me want to rip my hair out.

There are some incredibly ignorant and uneducated takes out there. People need to understand what "declaring for the draft" means now with the new rules. Literally every kid with any pro talent (NBA or overseas) should declare and get feedback. The new rules are meant to favor the student athletes and these guys are taking advantage of those rules.


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[coonhounds 9,032]

Reading some of these responses about the guys testing the waters makes me want to rip my hair out.

 

There are some incredibly ignorant and uneducated takes out there. People need to understand what "declaring for the draft" means now with the new rules. Literally every kid with any pro talent (NBA or overseas) should declare and get feedback. The new rules are meant to favor the student athletes and these guys are taking advantage of those rules.

 

 

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People who dont follow iu basketball or college in general dont know about the the new rules and when they here they are declaring in their minds then those players are gone. Just ignore social media idiots you have to now days if you plan on keeping your sanity lol

 

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[Hoosierfan2017 21,512]

1 minute ago, tyappleg said:

Reading some of these responses about the guys testing the waters makes me want to rip my hair out.

There are some incredibly ignorant and uneducated takes out there. People need to understand what "declaring for the draft" means now with the new rules. Literally every kid with any pro talent (NBA or overseas) should declare and get feedback. The new rules are meant to favor the student athletes and these guys are taking advantage of those rules.


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I think a lot of people (like the ones spazzing out on Facebook) don't understand the new rules so when they see kids 'declaring for the draft' they automatically assume that they're leaving college. They don't know that players can declare to get feedback so they freak and make loud noises on social media. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

That's the problem with Facebook and social media in general. Nothing but stupid crap and stupid people being stupid as hell

[BGleas 7,917]

3 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

 

So is that promise something they can and do go back on? Say the Celtics like him at 27 or wherever they end up in this draft, work him out, and fall in love and promise to take him there, but they're the only team doing that. He falls out of the 1st and into obscurity when he was promised a guaranteed contract. Is this a thing too?

 

From what I know, teams typically stick to the promises. If I remember correctly, the reason the Sixers took Larry Hughes over Paul Pierce and Nowitzki was because they gave Hughes a promise never thinking either of those two guys would fall to 8. 

If teams routinely went back on these promises it would really impact their relationship with agents, partly because it's arguably deceitful, but also because a lot of times guys will shut down workout with other teams. 

[Hoosiers High Life 278]

Probably. Or how delusional the players were. I think it makes sense to test the process but the mock drafts are a pretty accurate portrayal of where you stand as a player. It's not too difficult to figure it out.


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Except if you can go to the combine and impress! It's free professional advice. I would go to the combine and see what they have to say. Then you know what you can work on with another year of college! Makes sense


PULL THE TRIGGER!!!!

[Uspshoosier 45,891]

I know every player has a right to test his draft status -- and I'm cool with that. But I can't help but chuckle when I see that four dudes from an 18-16 team that finished 10th in its conference and lost its only NIT game have declared for the NBA. Cracks me up! 

Kerem Kanter from Wisconsin Green Bay (18-14 and 3rd in horizon) declared for the draft without an agent. Then after season has decided to do a grad transfer to Xavier but still keeps his name in draft without an agent. That cracks me up


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[sirhoosierlot 2,792]

59 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Reading some of these responses about the guys testing the waters makes me want to rip my hair out.

There are some incredibly ignorant and uneducated takes out there. People need to understand what "declaring for the draft" means now with the new rules. Literally every kid with any pro talent (NBA or overseas) should declare and get feedback. The new rules are meant to favor the student athletes and these guys are taking advantage of those rules.


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I don't see how it's any different from a networking and job fair.  Honestly, Archie was probably the person to tell them to go.  I don't see why everybody wants to be a crab in a bucket with these guys following their dreams. 

[Schreckbagger 623]

So......All three of these guys heard the word defense and toughness from new coach and now want to go NBA'ing.
Oh my....
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[drewheck 749]

What spot is OG predicted? I saw a mock draft and didn't see him in the first round.


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10 -20 in all mocks ive seen besides one

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[HooHooHoo22 3,902]

So......All three of these guys heard the word defense and toughness from new coach and now want to go NBA'ing.
Oh my....
.

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Another person that doesn't understand


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[drewheck 749]

I thought OG leaving meant IU had one to give?

Justin smith is still signed

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[moyemayhem 1,287]

12 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

So......All three of these guys heard the word defense and toughness from new coach and now want to go NBA'ing.
Oh my....
.

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And all they'll hear from NBA scouts is that they need to improve their defense and toughness if they want to get drafted.   Maybe it's the kick in the @$$ they all need and will be a blessing in disguise.

[Schreckbagger 623]

???

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[waitingon6 167]

It shouldn't crack you up. All four have the talent to possibly make the NBA one day so why not get feedback. It just goes to show how poorly coached these guys were. Honestly I'm shocked that Morgan didn't declare without an agent too just to get the feedback. There is no harm in declaring without an agent to get feedback. You can't get it or workout for teams unless you declare. It's kind of like a practice interview. Anyone would be silly not to do it even if they don't have much of a shot. I hate using Calapari as an example (just threw up in my mouth a bit) but he stated he that he encourages everyone of his kids to declare without an agent to get feedback.


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And Juwan might be the most well rounded, compred to the other four, at this point.

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[tyappleg 3,156]

So......All three of these guys heard the word defense and toughness from new coach and now want to go NBA'ing.
Oh my....
.

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And here's one of the worst takes yet. Unreal.


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