TOM CREAN FIRED

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

I am willing to give Alford a pass on the iowa situation because i dont know for sure what he knew and i dont know what control iowa officials told him to do. His first big time coaching gig also. It isn't like people dont make up rape cases all the time for stupid reasons so i cant judge him for taking a kids side he may have felt he trusted. I dont think his coaching record is up to par but that one serious incident i dont hate him for. Given iu past it should be considered a major liability and exclude him from being a option imo

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Yea, the rape incident aside, I just don't think he makes IU that much better. Like I've said before, if he didn't play at IU I don't think he would ever be mentioned.

[mark1981]

http://kentsterling.com/2017/03/08/iu-basketball-five-myths-dispelled-about-the-coaching-position-and-tom-crean/

 

[nerdvana]

21 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I am willing to give Alford a pass on the iowa situation because i dont know for sure what he knew and i dont know what control iowa officials told him to do. His first big time coaching gig also. It isn't like people dont make up rape cases all the time for stupid reasons so i cant judge him for taking a kids side he may have felt he trusted. I dont think his coaching record is up to par but that one serious incident i dont hate him for. Given iu past it should be considered a major liability and exclude him from being a option imo

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If we're gonna hire an $%@#&*!, I'd rather have Marshall.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

I am willing to give Alford a pass on the iowa situation because i dont know for sure what he knew and i dont know what control iowa officials told him to do. His first big time coaching gig also. It isn't like people dont make up rape cases all the time for stupid reasons so i cant judge him for taking a kids side he may have felt he trusted. I dont think his coaching record is up to par but that one serious incident i dont hate him for. Given iu past it should be considered a major liability and exclude him from being a option imo

 

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Posted by mdn82 in another thread...

 

http://news-releases.uiowa.edu/2003/april/040903skorton.html

 

Highlight were these parts:

 

"In addition to these formal contacts, some contacts with the female student were initiated by persons who were not University employees, but who have an informal University relationship. In particular, individuals affiliated with Athletes in Action, a religious organization, contacted the victim to seek an informal resolution of the matter by asking the victim to meet informally for prayer with the perpetrator. One of those individuals had a longstanding relationship with the basketball program and its coach, which included traveling with the basketball team and conducting voluntary chapel and Bible study activities for the team and staff."

 

"Coach Steve Alford was asked for comments by the press numerous times in the Pierce matter. He was advised by Bob Bowlsby that he should show support for his player but indicate that he was awaiting the resolution of the legal matter. The distinctions required in the direction he received were difficult to draw, however, and on at least one occasion, the Big Ten media day, he stated with regard to Pierce that "I totally believe he's innocent. I believed it from Day 1 and I still believe it."

 

 

 

No pass for Alford.

 

 

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[Double Down]

5 minutes ago, mark1981 said:

http://kentsterling.com/2017/03/08/iu-basketball-five-myths-dispelled-about-the-coaching-position-and-tom-crean/

 

Kent loves to stir the pot.  

There is a truth to what he says, but not for the reasons why.  It is true that Indiana has never hired a coach that was already at the top of his respective field.  But Knight was hired somewhere between the and Byzantine Empire era.  By the time Knight was hired, our legacy of weak kneed and bumpkin athletic directors bit us hard.  Our facilities were still Byzantine....our rivals were out there building everything needed to recruit and compete in the modern era.  

Indiana now has everything they need to compete.  Top 10 salary offer, Top 5 facilities, Top 1 passionate, national and supportive fanbase.  What more can a coach who wants to hang banners want.  Plus, if they pull it off, there will be a Mt Rushmore-esque statue carved in their likeness, immortalized for eternity.  

[coonhounds]

Posted by mnd28 in another thread...

http://news-releases.uiowa.edu/2003/april/040903skorton.html

Highlight was the part where someone "connected to Coach Alford" invited the victim to come to prayer sessions to discuss her decision on whether or not to pursued charges.

No pass for Alford.


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It still says someone connected to coach Alford. If he knew full well then yes he is way in the wrong. I said he shouldn't be a option but i dont believe everything in every article enough to say i hate him for it. I guess i am more of a skeptic than others

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

It still says someone connected to coach Alford. If he knew full well then yes he is way in the wrong. I said he shouldn't be a option but i dont believe everything in every article enough to say i hate him for it. I guess i am more of a skeptic than others

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That's not an article... that's a news release of an investigation into the entire situation by UI President Skorton. I'd recommend giving it a longer read through...


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[mark1981]

Alford is an average coach. We already have one of those. Pass

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[Capt. Crimson]

Crean just denied interest in Mizz job... "I want to put that to rest"

Article from Indy Star

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2017/03/09/indiana-hoosiers-tom-crean-leaving-missouri/98957236/

Relevant part...

"No, that's not true," Crean told Doyel as he was preparing his Hoosiers for Thursday's Big Ten tournament game. "I'm doing nothing but coaching this team.

"Normally, I don't comment on my job or any other open job, or on any speculation at all — and going forward, this is the only time I will do it, here to you — but I want to put that to rest. I'm coaching my team. I love coaching here."

[CrossboneIU22]

 

 

[mark1981]

Crean just denied interest in Mizz job... "I want to put that to rest"

Article from Indy Star

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2017/03/09/indiana-hoosiers-tom-crean-leaving-missouri/98957236/

Relevant part...

"No, that's not true," Crean told Doyel as he was preparing his Hoosiers for Thursday's Big Ten tournament game. "I'm doing nothing but coaching this team.

"Normally, I don't comment on my job or any other open job, or on any speculation at all — and going forward, this is the only time I will do it, here to you — but I want to put that to rest. I'm coaching my team. I love coaching here."

Gulp

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[theriverpilot]

1 minute ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

 

 

Nick Saban denied being the next Alabama coach too.  I mean, he can't just come out and say "I'm going to go coach Missouri, it's all true."

[Chris Nieman]

2 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

 

 

I like that glass declined to be interviewed. Silence Is golden. 

[Str8Hoosiers]

#BuckleUp

[reconmkd]

First stage of acceptance, DENIAL!

[Maynard]

6 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Crean just denied interest in Mizz job... "I want to put that to rest"

Article from Indy Star

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2017/03/09/indiana-hoosiers-tom-crean-leaving-missouri/98957236/

Relevant part...

"No, that's not true," Crean told Doyel as he was preparing his Hoosiers for Thursday's Big Ten tournament game. "I'm doing nothing but coaching this team.

"Normally, I don't comment on my job or any other open job, or on any speculation at all — and going forward, this is the only time I will do it, here to you — but I want to put that to rest. I'm coaching my team. I love coaching here."

This is the best kind of denial.  He is leveraging his position.  He is going to make more money.  Tell the press you love coaching at IU, tell the Missouri AD that you will "give him an ear, but that a move is unlikely."  Either that or he flat out said something that wasn't true because he was deer in headlights and wanted to protect the players.

[NCHoosier]

Crean would be a hell of a poker player...not.  Vague response to the question.  I interpret his response as more of an avoidance than a position of stance.

[Double Down]

Crean and Glass are both doing the right things in terms of managing the rumors, leaks and gossip.  While someone is in your employ, you don't do anything that that public could get wind of that would point to any loss of confidence in them.  I agree that a coaching move should be made after Indiana plays it's last game.  

The Mizz job isn't going anywhere.  If Crean wants it, he'll get it whether it is tomorrow or a few weeks from now.  In the meantime, in fairness to his players, it is smart to keep things quelled.  

 

[Chris Nieman]

Just now, Fkfootball1 said:

Greg Doyel is probably working to save Creans job. But why would Crean admit to that? He's going to say No. Lol.

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My thoughts exactly. What is he supposed to say? "Yeah I'm interested in that job. I'm just here so I don't get fined"

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Crean couldn't land the Mizzou job, hence the denial. Lol

I have a feeling we are all going to be heart broken.


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