TOM CREAN FIRED

[Brass Cannon]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Northwestern has 4 20 win seasons in its basketball history (he was 2 of them). With regard to his teams not making a tournament, he took over a program that has never made it to the tournament. I'm just saying his situation is a little more complicated then he has never made a tournament


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Aren't his teams schedules Creanesque in their cupcakeness?  

Not saying he's a bad coach but he's not ready for a program with conference championship aspirations. Let alone NCAA championship. 

[Yogi'sBicep]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

If IU could pull Donovan I'd change my avatar to a Justin Bieber for a month.

Quit 

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

Well so much for keeping Paps Private Message, Private

[HoosierAloha]

Donovan would be a program turning statement hire that would have IU competing at a high level.

I don't know how he feels about returning to college ball but you'd have to believe he would be interested in Indiana if he were.

I see the problem on the other side with IU not willing to do what needs to be done to get Billy the Kid. I think we see a hire in the up and coming tier. Hopefully the people who make the hire have done their homework.

[Old Friend]

Billy Donovan is not the answer, folks.

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Billy Donovan is not the answer, folks.

A coach w 2 National titles and 2 NIT titles at Florida lol and a game a way from a shot at an NBA title isn't the answer? He isn't just one of the best coaches in college but proved he is as well in the NBA where 30 or 40 ex head coaches are assistants that cant even get an NBA job. That shows you one...any NBA coach is talented and two he is one of the best minds in the game.

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[Brass Cannon]

31 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Donovan would be a program turning statement hire that would have IU competing at a high level.

I don't know how he feels about returning to college ball but you'd have to believe he would be interested in Indiana if he were.

I see the problem on the other side with IU not willing to do what needs to be done to get Billy the Kid. I think we see a hire in the up and coming tier. Hopefully the people who make the hire have done their homework.

If we go up and coming with this hire then it needs to be made clear to Glass that if another new basketball coach is needed a new AD will be doing the hiring 

[HoosierRob]

Billy Donovan is not the answer, folks.

Then there is no answer. I disagree in every way possible.

[Yogi'sBicep]

Hoiberg the goat

[Dalton26]

3 hours ago, OliviaPope40 said:

Don't count your chickens before they hatch but I like him too but I would happy with Brad Stevens.

You want Brad Stevens to coach Duke next season? 

[recker222000]

Billy Donovan is not the answer, folks.

Who is?

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[KYHoosier]

Time to rip off the bandaid and let Crean go. This is the year if any to make a change especially since Crean doesn't have a promising recruiting class coming in. My head coaches in the order I'd want them:

Brad Stevens (maybe not likely but have to make the call)

Billy D (would check every box as a coach  we could have as IU fans, instant star power)

Steve Alford (would recruit the shit out of the state)

Archie Miller (Young and has had tournament success. Teams play extremely hard and physical and seems to be a good in-game coach)

I think they land one of the 4.

Guys I would NOT want

Gregg Marshall (looks too much like Crean I'd have PTSD)

Mark Few (what conference is Gonzaga in again?)

Northwestern's coach 

Tony Bennett (good coach, much better than Crean, but something about him I can't get super excited about)

[jaxalum]

Xavier fan here.  I'm suprised I have not seen Chris Macks name not even mentioned.  Don't get me wrong,I'm glad, and I would hate to lose him.  But every year for the past 4 he is mentioned as a top group/leader type candidate for every open position.  I realize IU is blue blood and in a category of their own.

 

HAS MACKS NAME BEEN MENTIONED AT ALL BY ANYONE IN THE ADMIN, ANYONE WITH SOURCES?  Id appreciate any info.  

I do wish you guys good luck, and hope you find the perfect fit....not Mack though ;)

[sierracoach]

13 minutes ago, jaxalum said:

Xavier fan here.  I'm suprised I have not seen Chris Macks name not even mentioned.  Don't get me wrong,I'm glad, and I would hate to lose him.  But every year for the past 4 he is mentioned as a top group/leader type candidate for every open position.  I realize IU is blue blood and in a category of their own.

 

HAS MACKS NAME BEEN MENTIONED AT ALL BY ANYONE IN THE ADMIN, ANYONE WITH SOURCES?  Id appreciate any info.  

I do wish you guys good luck, and hope you find the perfect fit....not Mack though ;)

He's been mentioned, along with Archie and Holtmann and C. Collins, mostly in a "2nd" group of guys after the dream candidates (primarily Stevens and Donovan and, for some, Marshall). Maybe both Mack and Archie are waiting to see what Thad Matta's going to do in Columbus?

[jaxalum]

1 hour ago, sierracoach said:

He's been mentioned, along with Archie and Holtmann and C. Collins, mostly in a "2nd" group of guys after the dream candidates (primarily Stevens and Donovan and, for some, Marshall). Maybe both Mack and Archie are waiting to see what Thad Matta's going to do in Columbus?

Archies dream job is OSU, he's worked there, and Matta is not doing to well on the court and physically(back).  We have been hearing for years that Archie has been holding out for OSU, and its essentially a done deal when Matta decides to resign.  Now, can he say no to a job offer from a team in the same conference, but that's a blue blood with infinite amounts of history, a true destination job.  Archie will be more expensive than everyone else besides your top tier guys, which I don't understand, as Mack has been to 3 Sweet 16s, and the tournament every year he's been here ( I think it's the Miller name that commands $/we had Sean for 6 years and it was so worth every $).  Mack has great recruiting connections all over Indiana/the tri state area(is one of the better recruiters in college basketball) .  Mack will only consider a handful of schools (he's turned down everyone from Cal to Tennessee to Florida).  Those schools are rumored to be Louisville, IU, OSU, and I'm assuming if Duke or Carolina called, he would consider taking that call;)

This is not meant to offend in any way, but do IU people "in the know"/AD personnel, feel that Stevens and Donovan are legitimate possibilities, two NBA coaches that have reached the top of their profession, or just emotional reactions to a dissapointing year by an unpopular coach?  I'm an ex Bostonian as of last year (lived there for 8 years) and Stevens was immediatedly taken in and accepted by Boston fans immediately(I'm not sure I've ever heard of ANYONE not liking Brad Stevens), and has remained extremely popular, even through the tough years.  But, if he ever wanted to come back to college, with ALL his connections to Indiana(growing up/playing ball at Depauw/coaching), he's been a Hoosier his whole life,  its not a far reaching assumption that coaching IU would absolutely have to be his absolute dream job, #1 destination and choice/a "last" type of position.  Could his youth affect his decision?  What I mean is at 40, will he want the same job for the next 35 years? Or would he want to finish rebuilding the Celts, exhaust the potential there, and then "come home" to Bloomington to finish his career (at 60 he will still look 15 yrs old). 

Holtman, Collins, and Marshall would be gimmes for you guys (Holtman has really impressed me the last couple of years, both as a game coach and recruiter)  He was winning with 2* players when he first took over and has an eye for talent even if they lack "stars".

Is Crean definitely going to be fired after the season or do they give him one more year (you were #2 early on)?  You have W's over 2 potentially #1 seeds, and haven't you had injury problems as well?

 

[Yogi'sBicep]

4 minutes ago, jaxalum said:

Archies dream job is OSU, he's worked there, and Matta is not doing to well on the court and physically(back).  We have been hearing for years that Archie has been holding out for OSU, and its essentially a done deal when Matta decides to resign.  Now, can he say no to a job offer from a team in the same conference, but that's a blue blood with infinite amounts of history, a true destination job.  Archie will be more expensive than everyone else besides your top tier guys, which I don't understand, as Mack has been to 3 Sweet 16s, and the tournament every year he's been here ( I think it's the Miller name that commands $/we had Sean for 6 years and it was so worth every $).  Mack has great recruiting connections all over Indiana/the tri state area(is one of the better recruiters in college basketball) .  Mack will only consider a handful of schools (he's turned down everyone from Cal to Tennessee to Florida).  Those schools are rumored to be Louisville, IU, OSU, and I'm assuming if Duke or Carolina called, he would consider taking that call;)

This is not meant to offend in any way, but do IU people "in the know"/AD personnel, feel that Stevens and Donovan are legitimate possibilities, two NBA coaches that have reached the top of their profession, or just emotional reactions to a dissapointing year by an unpopular coach?  I'm an ex Bostonian as of last year (lived there for 8 years) and Stevens was immediatedly taken in and accepted by Boston fans immediately(I'm not sure I've ever heard of ANYONE not liking Brad Stevens), and has remained extremely popular, even through the tough years.  But, if he ever wanted to come back to college, with ALL his connections to Indiana(growing up/playing ball at Depauw/coaching), he's been a Hoosier his whole life,  its not a far reaching assumption that coaching IU would absolutely have to be his absolute dream job, #1 destination and choice/a "last" type of position.  Could his youth affect his decision?  What I mean is at 40, will he want the same job for the next 35 years? Or would he want to finish rebuilding the Celts, exhaust the potential there, and then "come home" to Bloomington to finish his career (at 60 he will still look 15 yrs old). 

Holtman, Collins, and Marshall would be gimmes for you guys (Holtman has really impressed me the last couple of years, both as a game coach and recruiter)  He was winning with 2* players when he first took over and has an eye for talent even if they lack "stars".

Is Crean definitely going to be fired after the season or do they give him one more year (you were #2 early on)?  You have W's over 2 potentially #1 seeds, and haven't you had injury problems as well?

 

Great post! We've had injury problems for 9 years. It could be a product of tempo, practice, strain, or bad luck - something is consistent though. Plethroas of boots, ankle sprains, and knee problems. I agree that we aren't the diamond of Millers' eye. Mack is almost a ghost in the CBB world in my eyes, for the success he's had I never hear his name much. Stevens is the dream that is not dry to every Hoosier fan. Donovan seems to be in rumors everywhere, it may just be popular trend. I think Donovan is an actual possibility. Marshall, Collins, and Holtmann just aren't the sexy pick that can reunite the fanbase, which should be a thought in the administrations mind. I am scared they don't want a coach who has more power than they do, again. Although, everyone on this board is ignoring me when I say that Hoiberg is the goat. He should be the next coach. Hoiberg gang.  

[OliviaPope40]

6 hours ago, Dalton26 said:

You want Brad Stevens to coach Duke next season? 

I had not thought about that scenario. 

[Josh]

I'm against Chris Mack due to the incidents with thug players in the years leading up to and including the Crosstown Brawl with Cincinnati. I don't want any part of him.

FIRE HIM! This is embarrassing

[smpenny2009]

From 96.9 Mike Bianchi on 96.9am this morning. FWIW "I know people who know Billy Donovan and he is not happy right now in OKC." Billy Donovan thought the OKC Job with Durant was a once in a lifetime opportunity but now it is just another job. Bianchi thinks that Donovan will end up back in the NCAA in "a year or two". However, Bianchi, who originally thought it would be at IU, does not think that Tom Crean will get fired after this year; thus Donovan will not end up here. He finished up by reiterating that he thinks there is a "real opportunity" that Donovan ends up in the NCAA next year. 

Sounded like the chances of Donovan being at IU next year being "very good" was really more of a belief that Donovan will end up in the NCAA somewhere in a year or two but not necessarily at IU. Just passing along what he said. 

[akhosrof]

I'm against Chris Mack due to the incidents with thug players in the years leading up to and including the Crosstown Brawl with Cincinnati. I don't want any part of him.

FIRE HIM! This is embarrassing

Adding to this, I know Crean backed off of Paul Scruggs once he transferred to Prolific Prep. Crean has pretty much steered clear of those types of schools. Not sure if Glass would want to hire a coach who's connected to that sort of recruiting. I don't know anything about Mack. I'm just guessing...


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