TOM CREAN FIRED

[IUHAHN81]

Let's all help ourselves out.  Let's all have low expectations for next yr that way if we do slightly better than expected we can all feel excited.  Try that reverse psychology on ourselves.  Everytime we expect to be really good, we suck.  Worth a shot.

[biteoftheapple]

As for Altman, I do not think Phil Knight would allow anyone to outbid for his services.

[HoosierRob]

It's fun to talk about but I just don't see Glass pulling the trigger.. Might have to wait for next year, which I believe will be another down year based on the mediocre recruiting class.

Agreed but.. I don't think it's been this loud before as to most of the fan base and alum wanting him gone.

I could be wrong but I get the sense that glass is gonna start feeling pressure.

Missing the NCAA 2 outta the last 4 years won't fly.

[mdn82]

Let's all help ourselves out.  Let's all have low expectations for next yr that way if we do slightly better than expected we can all feel excited.  Try that reverse psychology on ourselves.  Everytime we expect to be really good, we suck.  Worth a shot.

I think that is what most people have done on here and other sites for years. That is why years like this piss people off more.


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[mdn82]

Agreed but.. I don't think it's been this loud before as to most of the fan base and alum wanting him gone.

I could be wrong but I get the sense that glass is gonna IS feeling pressure.

Missing the NCAA 2 outta the last 4 years won't fly.

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[bigrod]

Knight was definitely an unknown, but he was highly regarded. He had been offered head coaching jobs at Florida, Wisconsin, and others were looking. Different times back then though...

I'd be all for a young up and comer who teaches the fundamentals and team concepts. Maybe that's Archie...


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[weaverswonders6]

Not that most people needed another reason to want CTC gone, but I read a piece last night with a disturbing statistic. Over the last 4 seasons, we're 36-29 in the BiG with three finishes of seventh or worse over last four seasons – including this one not yet concluded.

I decided to extrapolate on that further. Take since 2012 and we're 61-41 in conference. Other than the 2 BiG championships CTC has won(remove 2013 and 2016) we're 32-34. Under .500 in conference for 2012, 14, 15, and this year. That's insanity, that more often than not in the last 6 years we've been under .500 in conference.

[GloryDays]

In my best Dukie Vitale voice,Crean can REALLY coach BAAABY.Look at him pacing the sidelines .So much energy.ARE YOU kidding me ?HE HE HE HE.Hoosier fans SHOULD love him.


STFU!

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

It's fun to talk about but I just don't see Glass pulling the trigger.. Might have to wait for next year, which I believe will be another down year based on the mediocre recruiting class.

IndyStar Sports Twitter account said this this morning...

#iubb fans were booing everything against #Purdue. @GreggDoyelStar thinks that might become a trend. http://indy.st/2ka2sC4

May be THAT will get through to Glass and Crean... hate booing our guys, though.

[LIHoosier]

3 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

In my best Dukie Vitale voice,Crean can REALLY coach BAAABY.Look at him pacing the sidelines .So much energy.ARE YOU kidding me ?HE HE HE HE.Hoosier fans SHOULD love him.


STFU!

I'd love to see a compilation video of either one analyst/writer fawning over a bunch of coaches or of one coach being celebrated by the media.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, HoosierRob said:

Agreed but.. I don't think it's been this loud before as to most of the fan base and alum wanting him gone.

I could be wrong but I get the sense that glass is gonna start feeling pressure.

Missing the NCAA 2 outta the last 4 years won't fly.

Yep... missing the Dance 2 years out of 4 will do a lot to offset the 2 B1G championships out of 4 years.

[pumpfake]

31 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

IndyStar Sports Twitter account said this this morning...

#iubb fans were booing everything against #Purdue. @GreggDoyelStar thinks that might become a trend. http://indy.st/2ka2sC4

May be THAT will get through to Glass and Crean... hate booing our guys, though.

When I read that, my first reaction was that Doyel must have never been to Whackey Arena.  Good God, those idiots boo the refs if their own player misses a FT.

[CrossboneIU22]

Serious question.  Can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be so into Archie Miller?  I admit, I have not watched him coach or if I have I do not remember anything about it and I don't hear much about him other than on this site so I am curious as to what it is?  Again, serious question, looking for information from those who know more about him.

[CrossboneIU22]

I know this is slightly off topic but I'm worried about HTD.  There is only 1 thread started by him now on the main page of that site.  I think he might have finally lost it.

[weaverswonders6]

19 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

Serious question.  Can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be so into Archie Miller?  I admit, I have not watched him coach or if I have I do not remember anything about it and I don't hear much about him other than on this site so I am curious as to what it is?  Again, serious question, looking for information from those who know more about him.

I can tell you a few things, as I watch UD basketball second to IU (went to Dayton and lived in the area for 6-7 years before moving south).  Archie started his first 2 yrs at UD with 20-13 and 17-14 and hasn't won less than 25 since. He has the EE run that ppl point to, but also a remarkably similar curve upwards in his teams record, both in total wins and conference (7-9, 10-6, 13-5, 14-4).  He coaches D at a high level, with his team's adj D finishing at 31, 15, and 22(current year).  He's led UD to the best 3 year winning stretch in program history and will likely lead them to their 4 straight NCAA appearance (something CTC has NEVER done btw).  Factor in the roster challenges he has faced in the last few years (one year he had no one over 6'6 due to kicking some gents to the curb) and you start to see why he's an up and coming coach many are excited about.

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6 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

I know this is slightly off topic but I'm worried about HTD.  There is only 1 thread started by him now on the main page of that site.  I think he might have finally lost it.

Maybe he managed to open his eyes and got a peek at the truth...

[JSHoosier]

25 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

I know this is slightly off topic but I'm worried about HTD.  There is only 1 thread started by him now on the main page of that site.  I think he might have finally lost it.

Finally?  He lost it a long time ago.

[kreigh8]

25 minutes ago, weaverswonders6 said:

I can tell you a few things, as I watch UD basketball second to IU (went to Dayton and lived in the area for 6-7 years before moving south).  Archie started his first 2 yrs at UD with 20-13 and 17-14 and hasn't won less than 25 since. He has the EE run that ppl point to, but also a remarkably similar curve upwards in his teams record, both in total wins and conference (7-9, 10-6, 13-5, 14-4).  He coaches D at a high level, with his team's adj D finishing at 31, 15, and 22(current year).  He's led UD to the best 3 year winning stretch in program history and will likely lead them to their 4 straight NCAA appearance (something CTC has NEVER done btw).  Factor in the roster challenges he has faced in the last few years (one year he had no one over 6'6 due to kicking some gents to the curb) and you start to see why he's an up and coming coach many are excited about.

If I also may add on Archie, along with his brother Seth, are involved in USA basketball. May mean little in the long run, but with TJ Leaf and Sean Miller it can play a role. Leaf went to UCLA after Seth cut him from the USA team, as most may know, but I'm of the belief having someone tied to these teams and the pipeline it could provide can only be beneficial. It's not everything - as players can be found outside these teams like OG and Oladipo. Just thought I'd add my two cents, unsolicited as it may be.

[JSHoosier]

12 hours ago, 8bucks said:

Any thought on Dana Altman?

Not sold.  Since he's been at Oregon his average AdjD per Kenpom is 84, those rankings aren't really trending up either they're just all over the place from a high of 11 to as low as 160.

[weaverswonders6]

12 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Not sold.  Since he's been at Oregon his average AdjD per Kenpom is 84, those rankings aren't really trending up either they're just all over the place from a high of 11 to as low as 160.

Agreed.  I don't want the next coach to have had an adj D lower than the top 50 in the last 3 years.  After watching CTC's teams play little to no defense the last 9 years, I want some semblance of fundamentals shown on the floor, especially on defense.