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Top tier coaches have great big egos and think they are the person that can fix the problem. I personally have 0 worries about any top coaches scared off. IU is a still a national brand despite that mismanagement for the last 20 years. Also IU plays in 1 of the 2 power conferences that coaches will want to get to. IU will have great options for its next coach. Might not be the name brand most IU fans will want but I guarantee there will be plenty of great college basketball coaches that are lifers that will line up for the position.

I’ve been stoned on College Avenue- pretty nice lol!

Here ya go. LOL!

A lot of them do. Most I talk to want Woody to stay because they don’t want a college coach they knows what they are doing running IU. Get the right guy in position and IU becomes relevant in college basketball again. Listen to most national college basketball podcasts and they know what Woody was and what he is currently. Most see it was a failed experiment with the likely outcome of him not being coach next year

My guess is Woody skips town once he is canned. Without the $4.2M/yr and status as HC he has no use for IU. The Whiskey Lodge / Fellas Lounge should be bulldozed (or maybe a dramatic implosion?) for symbolic purposes. Sort of like when a dictator is overthrown and the statues and other symbols of that person are destroyed as the people reclaim their country.

Long snapper committed. Preferred walk on. Someone on one of the forms was really worried about long snappers. Hope they’re happy!

The first half is about the football game on Friday and the fallout, but the second half is about the BB team and game on Saturday. Fish sounds like he doesn't see this team doing much, and he probably has more insight and experience with IUBB than anyone. He basically says they don't play hard. Woodson is done.

GOT style? I may not like the guy, but getting the Cersei treatment might be a little over the edge. LOL

A public firing may be the only way to fill Assembly Hall this year.

Of course, there is zero chance we end up getting a 4 seed this year. McDonald’s all-Americans, freshman of the year, all confernece players and not projected to make the tournament is bonkers.

Someone posted we were pre-season #15 so a projected 4 seed. As I and many said then, if this was Bill Self, kelvin Sampson, Izzo, Calipari, K etc with this roster, we would have been top 5. The voters and odds makers just didn’t have faith in Woodson and rightfully so

I hear you but IU in my opinion is at a point of no return regardless of how the season ends. I think Dolson gets to do his job afterwards and gets to hire someone that will be his guy. Just making the tourney isn’t going to save him this year. He will have to make a Final 4 type run to even be considered being brought back. This is gone past just wins and losses. Its a train wreck all around the program and if we can see it and have been seeing it for a while now in my opinion Dolson has got to see it and understand that pretty much no matter what IU has to make a change. And if we are all wrong then they can just go ahead and shut it all down until he is gone because as bad as people think it is now if Woodson is back next year double the optics of people not caring and cut the attendance of home games in half.

Being out of Espns bracketology is probably a good thing. Lunardi doesn’t have his fast ball anymore and there are a bunch of better options to follow that would be more accurate. I want him gone as bad as anybody however going 11-9 in the B1G would more than likely have them on the right side of the bubble. B1G is by far the second best league this year and their success against every other conference besides the SEC will get more B1G teams in. Iu has 18 B1G games left. 13 Q1, 3 Q2, and 2 Q3 games out of those 18. If they win the 2 Q3 games then in the example of going 11-9 would mean 8 other B1G wins to get to 11 wins would be Mostly Q1 wins. Again Woodson needs to go but the math will works itself out and if IU goes 11-9 in conference some of you would need to prepare for them being on the right side of the bubble. Their SOS will only go up from here on out (108 overall now) and there non con sos will be in the mid 100s which would be fine for a bubble team or a lower seeded team. Again not saying that’s what I want or agree with just giving you the view from a bracketologist point of view instead of a fan

@Napleshoosier I can see from the emoji there’s some confusion. Literally. I’ll be more hypothetically clear - say you went to IU and were a student athlete alongside one of the greatest collegiate coaches of all time in his sport. Say you were best friends with his son, who also played for the team, and spent most holidays with their family because you didn’t have a father figure. Say, dog nabbit, if you wouldn’t know it, that friend ended up taking over for his dad and leading the most successful athletic program at your Alma mater into their next generation. Maybe that friend has a front row seat at the table of the athletic department and his dad continues to have a say to future AD’s about how to build a championship program and the type of personality it takes at the helm. And maybeeeee that friend knows you’re a die hard IU sports fan in general and puts you in touch with a few people in high places so he can get you to stop annoying him and his dad for information whenever things are going on. Maybe, just maybeee, that person would have a conversation or two to wish someone, or multiple someone’s, a merry Christmas - that may or may not naturally lead into a conversation that gives this particular someone, some “inside” Information that he chooses to pass along to fans just like him, who he knows care as passionately about this school’s athletic programs. But maybe he thinks to himself, if I type exactly what I just heard on the phone, it’s gonna be pretty obvious to the person I just got off the phone with, that it’s me who is posting information on message boards. Maybe this guy decides to keep it simple but still pass on some interesting info for his online buddies - without risking a stern talking to from the people he considers family and/or a father. Hope this helps clarify. Happy holidays faceless names on a message board I consider friends!

Top-5 NIL in the portal era will fund a restoration that takes two years max. Firing Woody after two years wouldn’t make sense, but if Woody was let go after last year they would understand it was a disaster and they likely wouldn’t be worried. As long as they make progress each year they will get four+ years no problem.

Unless I am missing something, I'm surprised there is not more excitement about landing Hemby....he's a good solid running back and great addition to the team! Hemby Signed with Indiana

We have had the same hump we've had for 4 years now...

We all know this but I fans of other college teams don’t know any of is going on. When I tell them, they’re very very surprised. I just don’t think it is that obvious to others. I sure hope you are right!

I say possible crapfest because he fluffed the schedule and put a lot on winning in the Bahamas, and based off that result, crapfest

Why are you defending Woodson!? :)

Well, a couple of years ago it meant getting a million dollar raise, so we don’t exactly have any reasons to be confident in the powers that be.

IU gave Mike Woodson 4 more years than any serious school would ever even think of giving him.

In the case of IU in its current state with the current HC, I promise he answers to the AD. He's done absolutely nothing to put him above anybody in that administration. Sometimes it's more about what you do than about who you know. These are fun conspiratorial discussions but at the end of the day he got his 4 year trial period, he hasn't been successful, no matter what he tells himself, he doesn't recruit, he's arrogant, he doesn't connect with 18 year old kids unless he's holding a big fat bag of cash, and he simply not good at the Xs and Os. He'll be fired at the end of the season, plain and simple

Yes.