Scotty R Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Josh said: He's right. They won every game and did everything they needed to. Some netds behind computers decided they know football better then actual results. Totally agree with this, what a joke Quote
LIHoosier Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 2:04 PM, Demo said: Seriously, that’s the committee. It looks like the monthly tenants’ meeting an assisted living facility. 12 minutes ago, Josh said: He's right. They won every game and did everything they needed to. Some netds behind computers decided they know football better then actual results. Its not the nerds anymore, its the geriatrics in the above tweet. Quote
Scotty R Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, J34 said: Didn't Ohio State win it all with a 3rd string quarterback, a few years back? A backup in Cordell Jones Quote
KingPG21 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, J34 said: Didn't Ohio State win it all with a 3rd string quarterback, a few years back? I mean they won the Big Ten title game 59-0 with him. FSU limped to a 16-6 win against a decent Louisville team Sorry, FSU w/o Travis isn’t a top 4 team Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, J34 said: Does a 12-1 SEC team, automatically mean they're better than a 13-0 ACC team, who beat 2 SEC teams? 1 away, and 1 on a neutral field That fact you don't think an argument can be made, that FSU is one the four best teams in the country, is absurd. There are plenty arguments that say differently. Plus, they're the only team in the top 8, to lose at home. I don’t think there’s any argument for FSU without Jordan Travis being a top 4 team in the country. What are the “plenty of arguments that say otherwise”? Loss of key players is one of the factors that the committee considers. Alabama beat three of the schools in the graphic you posted. Quote
Josh Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, KingPG21 said: I mean they won the Big Ten title game 59-0 with him. FSU limped to a 16-6 win against a decent Louisville team Sorry, FSU w/o Travis isn’t a top 4 team Maybe. But they earned a chance to prove it and they deserve in to prove/disprove it J34 and Naturalhoosier 1 1 Quote
mamasa Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I see both sides on this, love hearing both sides of the debate! MemphisHoosier 1 Quote
KingPG21 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Josh said: Maybe. But they earned a chance to prove it and they deserve in to prove/disprove it Sure. Tho I don’t really want to watch FSU’s anemic offense. So as a fan of good offense and QB play I am happy. I suppose expanding the playoffs solved some things. But like they are expanding it too much to me craigyv88 and mamasa 2 Quote
J34 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, KingPG21 said: I mean they won the Big Ten title game 59-0 with him. FSU limped to a 16-6 win against a decent Louisville team Sorry, FSU w/o Travis isn’t a top 4 team Who'd they play in the title game? Did they play a top 15 team? Quote
J34 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I don’t think there’s any argument for FSU without Jordan Travis being a top 4 team in the country. What are the “plenty of arguments that say otherwise”? Loss of key players is one of the factors that the committee considers. Alabama beat three of the schools in the graphic you posted. And struggled against USF and Auburn! You shouldn't penalize a P5 team for going undefeated. Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, J34 said: Who'd they play in the title game? Did they play a top 15 team? Wisconsin was #13 and favored by 4. J34 1 Quote
J34 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Hovadipo said: Wisconsin was #13 and favored by 4. Thanks for looking that up. The point still stands, they let OSU into the playoffs, with a 3rd stringer at the helm. Quote
KingPG21 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 This year is a really good example of why expanding the CFP is good. Tho expanding it to 12 is bad. Most years there are 6 teams that are clearly the best teams. This year has 8, Georiga, Bama, OSU, Michigan, Washington, Oregon, Texas, and FSU. Adding 8 teams is gonna be rough. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, J34 said: Thanks for looking that up. The point still stands, they let OSU into the playoffs, with a 3rd stringer at the helm. Sure, a 3rd stringer who led his team to a 59-0 blowout in his conference title game while throwing for 250+ and 3 tds. FSU’s third stringer threw for 55 yards last night. 219 total yards of offense last night. 224 yards against a 5-7 Florida team. FSU Was averaging 400+ offensive yards with Travis. Now they’re averaging half that. They very clearly are not the same team they were before. It stinks for the team, and maybe it’s not ‘fair,’ but it’s abundantly clear that they aren’t a top 4 team in the country now. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, KingPG21 said: This year is a really good example of why expanding the CFP is good. Tho expanding it to 12 is bad. Most years there are 6 teams that are clearly the best teams. This year has 8, Georiga, Bama, OSU, Michigan, Washington, Oregon, Texas, and FSU. Adding 8 teams is gonna be rough. Idk, this would’ve been awesome. Ryno6284, Lebowski, IUHoosierJoe and 4 others 7 Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Idk, this would’ve been awesome. It is not possible to have too many playoff games. Especially when opening round games will be on campus. That’s going to be bananas. Lebowski, OliviaPope40, lillurk and 3 others 6 Quote
J34 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Sure, a 3rd stringer who led his team to a 59-0 blowout in his conference title game while throwing for 250+ and 3 tds. FSU’s third stringer threw for 55 yards last night. 219 total yards of offense last night. 224 yards against a 5-7 Florida team. FSU Was averaging 400+ offensive yards with Travis. Now they’re averaging half that. They very clearly are not the same team they were before. It stinks for the team, and maybe it’s not ‘fair,’ but it’s abundantly clear that they aren’t a top 4 team in the country now. "Abundantly clear" is hyperbole. How did Alabama look against Texas(L), USF, A&M, Arkansas, and Auburn? Did they look worthy of a top 4? Since we're going off the eye test. Hoosierinbham and rcbowla 2 Quote
LIHoosier Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I wonder if they finagle things so that there aren't so many inter-conference matchups in the 1st round of the new playoffs. Quote
KingPG21 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Idk, this would’ve been awesome. Oregon-Mizzou would be tons of fun. Eventual OSU-Washington game would be fun just to watch the WR talent. It'd be up there with the LSU-Bama game with how talented the WRs are Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
TTT Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 They could just open up a second season in both, football and basketball and baseball to all teams and every sport for all tournaments. Even individual sports. Over the years expansion no matter how far expanded there is the argument that certain teams on the bubble or even near the bubble should be in or out. Even if expansion was to everyone except one there would be an argument for that particular team or individual should be included. Kinda like the Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer effect. Before recent years you had same argument about bowl games. Who received bowl bids vs those who didn’t and arguments over who went to what bowl except for assigned bowl games like the major 4 bowls on New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day. LamarCheeks, Scotty R and Tom White 1 1 1 Quote
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