College Football Thread

[Golfman25]

13 hours ago, bigrod said:

I have to admit, when I first heard about this, I thought it was just some sensitive freshmen who couldn't take some ribbing from older players. But this is just weird and crazy behavior. Makes no sense to me what purpose this serves. Anyone who knew and allowed this to happen should be fired, in my opinion.

Do you really think there was that much nakedness going on? That’s just too weird for smart dudes that go to NW.   I think it’s embellished.  But if true it’s no wonder they sucked.  I want my football players to kick @$$ and take names.  

[Golfman25]

On 7/9/2023 at 12:14 PM, Josh said:

I must be missing something here.  Running because of mistakes is fine with me.

The other stuff isn't obviously.  There's no way I'm taking that naked snap or going through the carwash lol

True story from back in the day.  We had an early morning practice, 6 am or something.  Running backs, QBs and center.  Shorts and helmets.    Well the center did wear a jock and was free wheeling down there.  The QBs were dying.  Must have fumbled dozens of snaps.  :)

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

Do you really think there was that much nakedness going on? That’s just too weird for smart dudes that go to NW.   I think it’s embellished.  But if true it’s no wonder they sucked.  I want my football players to kick @$$ and take names.  

It’s definitely weird. Agree on all counts except that it may not be embellished.

Because smart people can be some weird-@$$ freaks.

[kreigh8]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It’s definitely weird. Agree on all counts except that it may not be embellished.

Because smart people can be some weird-@$$ freaks.

Images of a white board with players’ names and “Shrek” would think becomes hard to defend

[TTT]

Transfer portal, NIL, crazy coaching salaries in the major league programs, money, money, money, flying around like it’s off a Cottonwood tree…..and it was one, then one here and there, then a few, and is there several, and how many weird or how much more weirdness is out there and to what extent and what is considered the norm and weirdness outside the norm?

[Golfman25]

22 minutes ago, TTT said:

Transfer portal, NIL, crazy coaching salaries in the major league programs, money, money, money, flying around like it’s off a Cottonwood tree…..and it was one, then one here and there, then a few, and is there several, and how many weird or how much more weirdness is out there and to what extent and what is considered the norm and weirdness outside the norm?

Anything naked is just plain weird.  Anything violent is out of bounds.  Making them Cary stuff, stupid names, getting food, etc. — who cares.  

[Josh]

12 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Do you really think there was that much nakedness going on? That’s just too weird for smart dudes that go to NW.   I think it’s embellished.  But if true it’s no wonder they sucked.  I want my football players to kick @$$ and take names.  

Everything I remember from my IU days was naked.  So most of this seems just silly/playful imo.

Except forced humping.  That part is the part that bothers me and could be considered assault.

[OGIUAndy]

3 hours ago, Josh said:

Everything I remember from my IU days was naked.  So most of this seems just silly/playful imo.

Except forced humping.  That part is the part that bothers me and could be considered assault.

In this day and age with phones and social media, you've got to be an idiot to partake in this stuff or let it happen. Naked stuff has always been apart of it because it's considered the most humiliating, it's also the dumbest to do these days because people will literally be charged with sexual assault. Even when this stuff was considered "ok" it was dumb. Doing it now is really just idiotic, like a death wish. 

[Josh]

2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

In this day and age with phones and social media, you've got to be an idiot to partake in this stuff or let it happen. Naked stuff has always been apart of it because it's considered the most humiliating, it's also the dumbest to do these days because people will literally be charged with sexual assault. Even when this stuff was considered "ok" it was dumb. Doing it now is really just idiotic, like a death wish. 

Haha, true.  I'm so glad there weren't cameras everywhere in the 90's

[OGIUAndy]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

Haha, true.  I'm so glad there weren't cameras everywhere in the 90's

Agree 100%! I can't imagine growing up with this stuff everywhere. But I guess you just wouldn't do have the crazy dumb stuff we did. So glad I was able to. 

[LamarCheeks]

Pat Fitzgerald apparently has about $40M left on his contract. Northwestern says, "You'll get nothing and like it." 

I like how it says Fitz's lawyer is "evaluating possible litigation." 

Oh -- there will will be litigation. 

 

[Lebowski]

The NW-Fitz thing is unfortunate. I never played at the college level so I'm completely oblivious with the ins and outs and what have you but I played the sport for 10 years and I recall being hazed with the teams I played on only once. I was a sophomore starting DB on the varsity and was 'hazed' by my fellow defensive LBs (all upperclassmen). And I wouldn't really consider it hazing. They picked me up in the locker room and carried me over to the toilet and began to attempt a swirly (Is that what they call these days?) only to pull me up before it ever happened. And this happened after a couple weeks into the season to where I was able to prove to hold my on own on the field for the team. It was all in good fun and all parties involved, including myself, never really felt threatened or came off as serious. Basically, a lot of smiles and zero issues. It felt more like an initiation and welcome to band of brothers more than anything. 

Were there incidents (questionable wtf moments) in the locker room where a one off player confrontation occurred? Yes. Were those confrontations personal? Yes. Were they ever a team building thing? No. Can I count on one hand how many times it occurred? Yes, once. Were the two players involved reprimanded by the coaching staff? Abso-effin'-lutely!

So my question to anyone that has played at the next level. Is this a thing (the hazing part, not the accusations of abuse etc. etc.) that occurs at the college level often?

[Alford Bailey]

21 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

In this day and age with phones and social media, you've got to be an idiot to partake in this stuff or let it happen. Naked stuff has always been apart of it because it's considered the most humiliating, it's also the dumbest to do these days because people will literally be charged with sexual assault. Even when this stuff was considered "ok" it was dumb. Doing it now is really just idiotic, like a death wish. 

It’s really amazing how stupid people can be.

[Demo]

Yeah, ok. Northwestern is unfairly blowing out the winningest coach in program history and all around school icon 8 weeks before the season starts because, what, they can do better?

Just stop it.

[RaceToTheTop]

Rick Telander article on the Fitzgerald firing.  Telander is a Northwestern alumni and is as respected as any Illinois sportswriter -- has been award Illinois Sportswriter of the year eight times.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/10/23790656/clueless-nu-finally-gets-it-right-and-did-what-it-had-to-do-fire-fitzgerald

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Lebowski said:

The NW-Fitz thing is unfortunate. I never played at the college level so I'm completely oblivious with the ins and outs and what have you but I played the sport for 10 years and I recall being hazed with the teams I played on only once. I was a sophomore starting DB on the varsity and was 'hazed' by my fellow defensive LBs (all upperclassmen). And I wouldn't really consider it hazing. They picked me up in the locker room and carried me over to the toilet and began to attempt a swirly (Is that what they call these days?) only to pull me up before it ever happened. And this happened after a couple weeks into the season to where I was able to prove to hold my on own on the field for the team. It was all in good fun and all parties involved, including myself, never really felt threatened or came off as serious. Basically, a lot of smiles and zero issues. It felt more like an initiation and welcome to band of brothers more than anything. 

Were there incidents (questionable wtf moments) in the locker room where a one off player confrontation occurred? Yes. Were those confrontations personal? Yes. Were they ever a team building thing? No. Can I count on one hand how many times it occurred? Yes, once. Were the two players involved reprimanded by the coaching staff? Abso-effin'-lutely!

So my question to anyone that has played at the next level. Is this a thing (the hazing part, not the accusations of abuse etc. etc.) that occurs at the college level often?

I think just like you, most what is considered "hazing" these days is just dudes messing with each other.  It's all in good fun and no harm intended.  

Now I just don't buy the "stories" that have come out with NW football.  I believe they may have messed with dudes that made mistakes, dumb plays, or whatever.  But the nakedness and "humping" allegations see far out there.  These guys are football players -- if something went "too far," somebody's @$$ would get kicked.  They usually don't take a lot of crap. 

Hell back several years ago at our high school, one kid was getting harassed by the "chosen star" of the team.  The victim took maters into his own hands and pissed on the star's gear.  Sure he got in trouble, but the crap stopped.  He went on to be a state placed wrestler and in college was part of a championship team.  :)

[Golfman25]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Rick Telander article on the Fitzgerald firing.  Telander is a Northwestern alumni and is as respected as any Illinois sportswriter -- has been award Illinois Sportswriter of the year eight times.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/10/23790656/clueless-nu-finally-gets-it-right-and-did-what-it-had-to-do-fire-fitzgerald

Yeah, just the virtue signaling trying to outdo the virtue signaling. There are even calls to stop the plans to renovate their stadium.  We pretty much now know why NW football generally sucks.  

[RaceToTheTop]

19 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Now I just don't buy the "stories" that have come out with NW football.  I believe they may have messed with dudes that made mistakes, dumb plays, or whatever.  But the nakedness and "humping" allegations see far out there.  These guys are football players -- if something went "too far," somebody's @$$ would get kicked.  They usually don't take a lot of crap. 

 

The ‘stories’ of nakedness and dry humping (“running”) at NW have been investigated snd documented.  There really isn’t any doubt to their truth.

 

[Hovadipo]

2 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah, just the virtue signaling trying to outdo the virtue signaling. There are even calls to stop the plans to renovate their stadium.  We pretty much now know why NW football generally sucks.  

If I was the Ryan family, I'd be questioning my $480 million stadium donation right now. I don't think that's out of line at all.

[Demo]

It’s been a minute since anything sports-related made me laugh this hard.