College Football Thread

[Dalton26]

On second thought I’ll continue this in the mod forum.

[theriverpilot]

Here’s the difference between Purdue and IU right now. Purdue has won big games in the past and even thought it has been down the past few years, their culture is still “Let’s finish this game.”

IU’s mindset during these big games vs OSU, UM, MSU, etc is “how do we not screw this up and hope we can hang on.”

How to change this is an entirely different topic altogether.




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[WayneFleekHoosier]

On second thought I’ll continue this in the mod forum.

I’m realistic. I’ve been very optimistic regarding IUBB and Archie as things have unfolded. I react to what’s happening on the court and off and continue to reassess things at all times. Even with a bad season last year, I’ve remained generally optimistic about IUBB.

As far as IUFB, I’ve been one of the better predictors of their results each and every year. As others have overrated the football team, I’ve judged them accordingly and at all times.

RE: Indiana vs Purdue. I’m talking right now and trending forward. Not last year. Last year means little. Since Purdue has started Blough, they’ve HAVE been “much better” than IU. No doubt about it.

I was pessimistic about Crean. Why? I was a realist when others weren’t.

IU isn’t a bad football team. We make dumb and ill-timed mistakes. But Purdue has been playing great football with Blough.


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[American HoosierX]

24 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

lol. Ok. I’ve watched every IU game and Purdue game this year. As soon as Blough took over Purdue has been on another level.

Look back through the threads. I’ve said so before IU started its losing streak and Purdue began its winning streak.

I call things like they are. Not “too easy to doubt IU”

Ridiculous.


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I see that post is gone but how could anyone not doubt IU at this point? I'm thinking about running the numbers on how statistically improbable it is that we have lost so many games in a row against good teams.  It's almost unbelievable at this point.

I’m not on the fire Tom Allen train, but it is really easy to doubt IU football right now.

[Naturalhoosier]

Love seeing Purdue pile on OSU. I mean, I shouldn't, it's Purdue, but I'm really enjoying this outcome. 

[Alford Bailey]

21 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

On second thought I’ll continue this in the mod forum.

LOL. Purdue lost their first three by a total of 8 points and won their last three by a total of 70 points. Up 20 on OSU.  Run to the mod thread.

Edit up 29 on the #2 team in the country now.

[Dalton26]

10 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

LOL. Purdue lost their first three by a total of 8 points and won their last three by a total of 70 points. Up 20 on OSU.  Run to the mod thread.

Look at who they played in each of those games they still lost to a bad Eastern Michigan team and a mediocre Missouri team while their big wins come against an awful Nebraska team and a bad Illinois team. OSU is a tremendous win but let’s not pretend that Purdue wouldn’t lose this game if they played 9 more times. The stars aligned and they won which is great for their program  

The picture looks a lot different when you show the full story rather than the straw man argument you tried. I do think Purdue is better but they aren’t much better like was implied. It’ll likely be a one score win when we play each other  

It’s not running to the mod thread. Fleek is also a mod so doing that it keeps an argument off the board like we’re supposed to. Nice try, but you failed on that one. 

[monskisprodigy]

9 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

Brohm wanted the IU job but Fred had his mind made up. There is no reason for Glass to be employed by Indiana University on Monday.

Hadn’t heard this yet. Is there actually any truth to this? 

[mdn82]

Hadn’t heard this yet. Is there actually any truth to this? 

Hadn’t heard that either.


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[Dalton26]

Hadn’t heard this yet. Is there actually any truth to this? 

I’ve always heard he wanted the UofL job.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Hadn’t heard this yet. Is there actually any truth to this? 

Never heard this either.


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[American HoosierX]

8 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Look at who they played in each of those games they still lost to a bad Eastern Michigan team and a mediocre Missouri team while their big wins come against an awful Nebraska team and a bad Illinois team. OSU is a tremendous win but let’s not pretend that Purdue wouldn’t lose this game if they played 9 more times. The stars aligned and they won which is great for their program  

The picture looks a lot different when you show the full story rather than the straw man argument you tried. I do think Purdue is better but they aren’t much better like was implied. It’ll likely be a one score win when we play each other  

It’s not running to the mod thread. Fleek is also a mod so doing that it keeps an argument off the board like we’re supposed to. Nice try, but you failed on that one. 

And yet they f’ing won the game...by 29 no less.

What’s the point it talking about whether they would win if they played again? They executed when they had to and that is something that IU never does.

When is that last time we beat an upper tier big ten team by even 1?

[Dalton26]

5 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

And yet they f’ing won the game...by 29 no less.

What’s the point it talking about whether they would win if they played again? They executed when they had to and that is something that IU never does.

When is that last time we beat an upper tier big ten team by even 1?

The point went way over your head. Someone used the OSU game as an argument and I was more or less saying that it’s one game. It doesn’t make them a great team just because they beat #2. It’s an amazing win for them none the less. We beat a ranked team 2 seasons ago and we didn’t suddenly become great. Miracles do happen 

[Alford Bailey]

17 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Look at who they played in each of those games they still lost to a bad Eastern Michigan team and a mediocre Missouri team while their big wins come against an awful Nebraska team and a bad Illinois team. OSU is a tremendous win but let’s not pretend that Purdue wouldn’t lose this game if they played 9 more times. The stars aligned and they won which is great for their program  

The picture looks a lot different when you show the full story rather than the straw man argument you tried. I do think Purdue is better but they aren’t much better like was implied. It’ll likely be a one score win when we play each other  

It’s not running to the mod thread. Fleek is also a mod so doing that it keeps an argument off the board like we’re supposed to. Nice try, but you failed on that one. 

You attacked the best contributor to the group who also happens to be a mod and got called on it. Own it.

[American HoosierX]

2 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

The point went way over your head. Someone used the OSU game as an argument and I was more or less saying that it’s one game. It doesn’t make them a great team just because they beat #2. It’s an amazing win for them none the less. We beat a ranked team 2 seasons ago and we didn’t suddenly become great. Miracles do happen 

Way over my head?  Is part of your job as a mod to be condescending?

You just talked about a straw man and yet you’re the one guilty of it. No one said they are a great team. The point that was made is that they are much better than us right now.

You are also discounting the fact that Purdue’s losses were all early and they’ve clearly improved.  You can keep talking about Eastern Michigan, but the simple fact is that Purdue is now a different team.

[Dalton26]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

You attacked the best contributor to the group who also happens to be a mod and got called on it. Own it.

Who called me on it? The person I directed it to read everything I said which was the intent of the post. It wasn’t an attack it was the truth. taking it to the mod section is what should’ve been done in the first place and I failed to do that so I took it there after but Wayne decided to keep it in the thread which we as mods aren’t supposed to do. I shouldn’t have posted it in here in the first place and tried taking it in the mod section  

I’ve got several PM’s since my post that would strongly disagree with you. I also called you on the straw man argument you were trying to make, own that. 

[mdn82]

Yes, he did want the job. IU was the better program at the time but Fred had his mind made up and went with the cheap option.

Where was that even at? Like you said Fred made his mind up and it happened quickly. Doubt there would be too much time for someone to want to go to IU that quickly without stepping on campus and knowing what the AD and school is about. Let alone know what they would pay when he isn’t an IU fan.

 

 

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[mdn82]

I won’t go into further detail but what I said is accurate.

No offense it’s just hard to believe it being the first time any of us has heard about that.


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[HoosierAloha]

This should be good... haha

[Dalton26]

2 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Way over my head?  Is part of your job as a mod to be condescending?

You just talked about a straw man and yet you’re the one guilty of it. No one said they are a great team. The point that was made is that they are much better than us right now.

You are also discounting the fact that Purdue’s losses were all early and they’ve clearly improved.  You can keep talking about Eastern Michigan, but the simple fact is that Purdue is now a different team.

I reply to people with the same tone they come at me with. That’s how I took your post so that’s how i responded. If you weren’t trying to be then I apologize.  

And the point I initially made was that they may be better but it’s not by a lot like others had said. Honestly I think we’re both mediocre at best football teams.