Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted April 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: He is WAY up there. Look at his feet relative to ground. Flying Freddie. Fly Freddie fly. Fast Freddie flies fearlessly. For fearless flying Freddie, flying feels fun. Freddie's flying feet float five feet; freakishly far! Fly Freddie fly ... forever. Flying Freddie. HoosierAloha, WayneFleekHoosier, BtownBanner6 and 5 others 8 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 McSwain recruitment reminds me of Hanners in a way. I remember that recruiting video of Hanner jumping a mile high to touch that ball. McSwain---this photo. Hoping different ending. Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: McSwain recruitment reminds me of Hanners in a way. I remember that recruiting video of Hanner jumping a mile high to touch that ball. McSwain---this photo. Hoping different ending. One has nothing to do with the other. Freddie is not Hanner...AT LEAST I HOPE NOT! Crimson and Cream 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Check out the numbers again Will numbers that were by year change if I do? Quote
BtownBanner6 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 One has nothing to do with the other. Freddie is not Hanner...AT LEAST I HOPE NOT! I think their skills and potential are very comparable, the hope is Freddie actually wants to get better, and puts the time to learn the basics and polish his game. Hanner clearly didn't care enough to do that. Quote
X-Hoosier Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 I mean... I'd rather have Freddie than say... Priller. At least Freddie is physically capable of keeping up. I think Priller could find a good home at a D-3 or NAIA school in Texas close to home. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app yogisballin, Crimson and Cream, Bruce038 and 1 other 4 Quote
MadAboutIndiana Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Will numbers that were by year change if I do? What would you really want to change about the transfers? Who'd you really want to keep? Nick Williams? Quote
Bowhunter Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4756566/highlights/335041518 I am excited ... He dunks with authority and rebounds at a high level! His shot doesn't look bad, I am surprised his free throw percentage is so low. Crean has landed another diamond, and with proper weight training, I see his development soaring! ALASKA HOOSIER and HoosierHoops1 2 Quote
hoosierpap Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said: Are you saying "it just isn't" at IU or in college basketball? There was a good article/video that came out a bit ago about an ex assistant that lifted the curtain on college basketball and it's happenings in regards to coaching/recruiting etc. I'm not basing my stance on that article but it is additional validation. In a nutshell, he said that if there was a player on the team that was not valuable and they had another recruit that they did value but needed that scholarship spot, they would go to all lengths to make sure the kid transferred. Step one was subtle, telling the kid that they didn't see him contributing and that they might find more time elsewhere. If that didn't work then they would tell them they suggest that he transfer. If that didn't work they would begin to ostracize the kid, etc etc. it's not just one simple conversation where everything goes back to normal or is hunky dory after the conversation whether they stay or go. And for another poster that said something to the effect of it happening all over te bigten and NCAA, that is true but I and a few other people crunched the numbers at one point and Crean was #1 in the bigten over a several year period. He's earned it and I can see why high school coaches are wary. Huh? That is your argument? That grown men who are also college basketball coaches would make kids transfer because they were helping their team win? I've heard a lot, but this may take the cake. Did you read what I said? I want to point out this is what I said.... " It isn't like a 50 year old man (Tom Crean) is going to hold a grudge against a 19 year old "kid" (Tim Priller) if he has earned minutes and will help the team. It just isn't. " And your original point was about Crean earning the reputation. Now you're citing some unknown assistant from another program and arguing this is an issue that happens...not at IU? mamasa 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 What would you really want to change about the transfers? Who'd you really want to keep? Nick Williams? There have been several. The point is, every coach makes some mistakes in recruitment and not every player pans out, but there are things one can do to mitigate it. Eliminate recruiting with a shotgun approach, stop offering players you have only seen once or twice and in some cases only in practice, cutting back on the over sign etc would be a start. Coaches are holding him accountable for his missteps and I don't blame them. I love IU and can admit I saw more adjustment and improvement from Crean this season than any other, but he has his faults and transfers are one of them, more so than most. I hope this works out well for our current players and Freddie Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Will numbers that were by year change if I do? You'll see Crean is not the outlier you currently believe him to be Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Huh? That is your argument? That grown men who are also college basketball coaches would make kids transfer because they were helping their team win? I've heard a lot, but this may take the cake. Did you read what I said? I want to point out this is what I said.... " It isn't like a 50 year old man (Tom Crean) is going to hold a grudge against a 19 year old "kid" (Tim Priller) if he has earned minutes and will help the team. It just isn't. " And your original point was about Crean earning the reputation. Now you're citing some unknown assistant from another program and arguing this is an issue that happens...not at IU? I guess I just don't understand what you were saying there then. No player wants to stay on a team where a coach has made things uncomfortable for you and made plans without you or in your place. Your as good as dead if you are suggested to leave and you don't. "Grudge" or whatever you call it, your viewed and treated as one that stood in the way of progress/coaches agenda Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Welcome to the Hoosiers Freddie! I know this means Troy is probably gone----but I like this pick-up---helps balance the classes and gives us another mature player up front. How's the air up there???? The slam dunk contest at Hysteria just got more competitive! ALASKA HOOSIER, Bobman1, WayneFleekHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
hoosierpap Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said: I guess I just don't understand what you were saying there then. No player wants to stay on a team where a coach has made things uncomfortable for you and made plans without you or in your place. Your as good as dead if you are suggested to leave and you don't. "Grudge" or whatever you call it, your viewed and treated as one that stood in the way of progress/coaches agenda What? Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 I think the train of thought is...... If playing time isn't in your future due to skill level... And you want playing time versus bench mob....The staff will try to find you a new situation where you can find playing time... Both sides can be seen as winners. Team dumps kid lacking the skills to benefit the team. Kid benefits from moving to a team where playing time can be increased. Kyle Wiltjer is a great example, although I think that was more of a Luke Fischer situation and not a skill issue. Both sides benefitted. Hollowell.. Both sides benefit. Jurkin. Same List can go on and on. Bobman1 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 What? It's been laid out there pretty clearly. I'm not sure what you aren't understanding or believing here as coaches have laid it out there for you and it hasn't sunk in so I think I am wasting my time. You've heard it from coaches and I've heard it from a player. It's a real problem that Could be minimized Quote
Dalton26 Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Wasn't it like a month ago and most everyone wanted this guy? I think most would just rather keep Troy. Quote
X-Hoosier Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Doesn't really matter to me. If Troy returns awesome. If he leaves... awesome. I can play with him on 2k17 if he makes it on there. This kid is probably a bit tougher than Troy. I just hope he isn't as out of control. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Popular Post Alford Bailey Posted April 25, 2016 Popular Post Posted April 25, 2016 I'm fine with this. Crean hasn't brought in tranfers to sit so tells me he is good enough to play. Probably wont be as good as good Troy or as bad as bad Troy. Parakeet Jones, MadAboutIndiana, HoosierAloha and 10 others 13 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: I'm fine with this. Crean hasn't brought in tranfers to sit so tells me he is good enough to play. Probably won't be as good as good Troy or as bad as bad Troy. And Alford Bailey throws down the microphone. HoosierAloha, IUsafety, Bittersince87 and 2 others 5 Quote
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