Devin Davis cited for marijuana possession

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

19 years old, living on my own with Uncle Sam footing the bill and the only thing I have to do is "work" doing a job that most boys grow up dreaming to have.  I arrive at my first duty location and my supervisor drills into my head the only real rule he has is "don't get caught."  If you want to drink, like a lot of 19 year olds in my situation do, go to his apartment or another one of the coworkers place and drink as much as you want.

 

I had a nice setup downtown where I could drink as well but no I was the dumb one that got caught on base in the dorms.  Why the hell would I drink on base in the dorms when I had so many other options?  Simple, I thought I was invincible and couldn't be caught.  I spent a few hours at the cop shop and my flight chief walked in.  The dude was huge and pissed.  Having to pickup his Airman at 0300 for underage consumption.  When he walked through the doors I thought I was going to get the crap kicked out of me.  He signed my release.  I could see how much I had let him down.  The following months were hell.  I became the "weak link" that everyone looked down upon even though many others had been consuming underage as well.  I had extra duty and anyone I worked with could order me to do almost anything.

 

I could tell quickly that I let everyone down.  It wasn't because I was drinking underage it was the fact I was stupid in how I was doing it.  Everyone I worked with had given me an opportunity to drink, have a good time, and not have any repercussions.  They were my brothers and I brought unnecessary heat to our flight.  I was put on "probation" for 6 months with another screwup costing me my job.  I probably drank more the following 2 years than I did the previous years but did it in a smart way.  I made sure that the new Airman coming in followed the unwritten rules of only drinking in places they wouldn't get caught.

 

Moral of the story:  I screwed up and had to take the punishment but I learned from it.  I didn't want to disappoint my supervisor, my flight chief, or my career field by screwing up again.  Furthermore, it was my responsibility to ensure the younger guys learned a lesson from me and wouldn't get caught.

 

I definitely can't throw stones from my glass house but this nonsense with the IU basketball program has to change.  This is another example of having little respect for your teammates, your coach, and the basketball program.  Learn from yours and others mistakes and make sure they don't happen again.  If you absolutely have to drink, and you're underage, go to someone's place that you know you will be safe.  If you absolutely have to smoke have a teammate drive 15 minutes down to Lake Monroe and light up.  The stupidity of the players is turning the program into a circus.  Last but not least, if those in charge can't get through to the players then drastic changes have to happen.

[TheWatShot 14,074]

This is what happens when your coach is a pushover and the players don't respect him. 

[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,276]

I swear, our program is cursed by Robert Montgomery Knight!

 

The "RMK" curse, the teach it at Hogwarts....(I can't back any of this up)

 

Bottom line: This isn't about DD anymore. This isn't about marijuana. This is about the program! Damnit, can't you see that you have to lay down the law and more importantly, live by it. This isn't just one incident, this is/has been chronic (no pun intended). If you let your horses run wild, they will be wild and can't be rode. It's simple....I hate to see DD kicked off but it is something that needs to happen. Zero tolerance!

[colonel06 1,917]

This is what happens when your coach is a pushover and the players don't respect him. 

It is painfully becoming more clear and I grudgingly must agree. :(

[IUHoosier5 1,610]

This is what happens when your coach is a pushover and the players don't respect him.

I still guarantee this happens at 75% of D1 NCAAB schools. They just are smarter about it

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

I am afraid that the process that both players will go through, will involve an impromptu drug test. I would believe HMP could be as vulnerable as DD to this. And Hanner had a past history, also. Possibly our deep bench has become a lot thinner.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

This is what happens when your coach is a pushover and the players don't respect him. 

 

We need a list of the off-court failings of this team and punishments.

 

Robinson/Williams - failed drug tests  (no apparent punishment)

Perea - DUI (2 1/2 game suspension)

Robinson/Ferrell - Fake IDs (no apparent punishment)

Robinson/Williams - failed drug tests (3 game mandatory NCAA punishment)

Holt/Davis - alcohol related incident (Holt 3 game suspension, Davis soph year without basketball)

Davis - possession of marijuana (TBD)

 

That's within the last 12-18 months.  Ouch!

[hoosha61 386]

Like I said... he should know the rules. He should know where he stands within the program and that he represents the University.

My message is to everyone ripping this kid apart for nothing. I don't think it's wrong to smoke some pot over the summer as a college student, but it is against the rules and law. Devin will pay for that citation (literally) and he will be punished from his team. Done deal. Live and learn. He made a mistake. Leave the kid alone.

If this were a singular event I would agree with you, but it's not. This along with the alcohol related incident and all the negativity surrounding the program cannot be ignored. He is not just another college student. He is a representative of IU and iubb. There are not Internet forums for normal college students. IMHO he is selfish, immature and forfeited his right to represent IU.

[bnkepner 1,509]

Ridiculous. You would think that he would've learned a lesson after he almost lost his life because of some very bad decisions and now this. Doesn't matter if its going to be legalized or if people don't agree with the law, the fact is that he broke the law and broke rules. I feel sorry for the kid because of all he has gone through, but enough is enough

[hoosha61 386]

I still guarantee this happens at 75% of D1 NCAAB schools. They just are smarter about it

I'm not concerned about other schools, this is IUBB. I'm probably much older than most on here, but I remember when iubb was synonymous with excellence on and off the court. Am I naive enough to think that past players didn't drink or smoke? No, but they had enough sense/respect not to get caught.

[coonhounds 9,035]

Really is sad to say the least. I can't handle this b.s. anymore and its embarrassing.

[Tom White 1,435]

Lol.. Is crean suppose to get a sleeping bag and have sleepovers with the players? Devin is an adult and this is on him to make better decisions.. Amazing how everyone wants to blame crean for everything

Well apparently, Crean hasn't been able/willing to get their attention. He is the guardian of the program, and it's reputation. He isn't getting that part of his job done.

[bnkepner 1,509]

Also , I don't know if it was mentioned but Hanner was present at the time. Disappointing that these guys haven't learned but it seems that they are being held too accountable either

[Banksyrules 4,814]

They don't respect their coach enough. The coach is not responsible for him, but this is an aspect of his job he should have had a firm handle on for the past two years.

He should be fired, but the only reason he has a job is because of the talent we have for next year. That's it. Sad.

[colonel06 1,917]

All you can as a fan is just laugh. If Ol Tom is gonna have his second coming as a coach he better start off with a dismissal.

He is such a nice guy and coach. However, his leadership style is best suited for people that don't need discipline, are more mature self-motivated and  have a strong leadership ethos within the unit/ team members themselves.

 

 Unfortunately, that leadership style is not what is needed at this time with this program.

[Hoosiers High Life 278]

Ugh whoops another bites the dust.....

[WindyCitySource 600]

If this were a singular event I would agree with you, but it's not. This along with the alcohol related incident and all the negativity surrounding the program cannot be ignored. He is not just another college student. He is a representative of IU and iubb. There are not Internet forums for normal college students. IMHO he is selfish, immature and forfeited his right to represent IU.

 

Agree to disagree. 

[Hovadipo 56,436]

Not saying it makes the situation any better considering the morale behind if, but why in the world could they not have gone outside or in someone's car? A dorm room, seriously? It's the dumbest thing you can do as a resident of a dorm.

I would advise against a car, but I see your overall point and agree. But like I said...some are smarter than others.

[Tom White 1,435]

Nobody was smoking, he was cited for possession. Nobody was even arrested. I'm sorry but I fail to see Hanner's guilt in any of this.

If nobody was smoking, how did the odor of marijuana smoke from a 2nd floor window get noticed? From outside?

That would take a decent amount of smoke from a room in which nobody was smoking.

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

Disciplinarian is not an adjective I would use for Crean. I think players need an element of fear for their coach. They probably respect Crean and his position, but they don't fear him in it