IUBB vs WSU Postgame :( Thread

[Josh 12,621]

Part of the problem is because we play such shoddy defense and  don't know how to get in front of the opponent and use our hands instead of moving our feet on defense.

 

Thank you, I needed that.  Frustrating loss.

[BlueDevil 8,686]

I tried following along at work, I'm guessing more of Crean's renowned halftime adjustments?

And JBJ and troy were no shows the majority of the game

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,291]

I'm exhausted and not even surprised with this loss at all. Not sad at all. That is the worst part. Indifference is setting deeper!

[LIHoosier 26,141]

I tried following along at work, I'm guessing more of Crean's renowned halftime adjustments?

Yup. If you've seen one, you've seen the first one.

[IUHoosier5 1,597]

ya i didnt wanna be wrong but i thought that they would have to sit out a year

Exactly. It just doesn't make sense if they want to get to the NBA sooner rather than later

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Our FT defense was horrible and WSU can make FTs.

 

I'm not even that mad about losing this game.  At about 7 minutes let I said I had seen this play out before and it happened like the other 10+ times this season.

 

I always dig at teams like Baylor, SEC teams, St. Johns, etc. because they make dumb basketball mistakes.  We have become like those teams.  When you dribble around out of control and then hope a teammate will bail you out that is a dumb basketball move.  Hi Yogi, Hi Troy.  RoJo is a frosh but it's the end of the season, hold onto the ball.  JBJ you're an excellent shooter when you're set, don't rush your shot and hold onto the ball.  Why are we making the same mistakes at the end of the season that we did at the beginning of the season.  Good teams become better as the season goes on we peaked early in the B1G season and have played like trash to close the season out.  We have seen this over and over and over again.  There isn't one rotational player on this team that isn't capable of playing defense or playing smart but like their head coach they are frantic and lack consistency.  It's old, players and coach need changes.

[JSHoosier 20,142]

Nope. Never has been. Take Troy and Vic. Prob a push on athletics. Troy is taller. Who is the better defender? Why?

Ability is absolutely part of the equation on defense.  Attitude and 'want to' are part of it, a big part, but there is more to it.

 

Hulls tried on defense, and his intelligence let him be a pretty good off-ball/help defender but he was limited on ball because of athleticism.  His defensive struggles had nothing to do with desire to play that end.

 

If he cared about teaching defense then why are we so bad at it. The only other explanation is that all the players are physically incapable of playing defense. I have a hard time believing that Indiana doesn't have or can get the athletes to play good defense.

Maybe Crean just isn't much of a defensive coach?  I've posted the defensive rankings of his teams going back to 2002 before, and aside from a few seasons defense was never a strong point of his teams.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Troy 2-10, 2 TOs

JBJ 4-11, 5 TOs

RoJo 2-6, 1 TO

 

8-27 or 30% and 8 TOs from your supporting cast.  That's not going to get it done. 

[AZ Hoosier 6,981]

Ability is absolutely part of the equation on defense.  Attitude and 'want to' are part of it, a big part, but there is more to it.

 

Hulls tried on defense, and his intelligence let him be a pretty good off-ball/help defender but he was limited on ball because of athleticism.  His defensive struggles had nothing to do with desire to play that end.

 

Maybe Crean just isn't much of a defensive coach?  I've posted the defensive rankings of his teams going back to 2002 before, and aside from a few seasons defense was never a strong point of his teams.

 

That's the problem with focusing on offense. With a team that plays offense and no defense, you win (or come close) when the shots are falling, but fail miserably when they don't.

 

However, if you play lock down defense, there is no reliance on the shots falling. Defense is consistent. Learn the fundamentals and put in the effort.

 

Sadly, I see very little defensive effort from anyone when evaluating the season as a whole.

[Hovadipo 55,892]

I'm just ready for football/fútbol season.

[IUHoosier5 1,597]

That's the problem with focusing on offense. With a team that plays offense and no defense, you win (or come close) when the shots are falling, but fail miserably when they don't.

However, if you play lock down defense, there is no reliance on the shots falling. Defense is consistent. Learn the fundamentals and put in the effort.

Sadly, I see very little defensive effort from anyone when evaluating the season as a whole.

This X 100,000,000

[Scooter D 928]

I'm just ready for football/fútbol season.

The EPL is on TV on Saturdays and Sundays...early, so it doesn't screw up the rest of your day.

[Hovadipo 55,892]

The EPL is on TV on Saturdays and Sundays...early, so it doesn't screw up the rest of your day.

Yeah I like catching that, but I was meaning more the IU seasons haha. Go Spurs!

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

Definitely didn't expect to lose a game when you go 17-20 from the line and 11-22 behind the arc.  Kind of seemed like the Kentucky game from 3 years ago when they should 40 free throws to beat us.

[Myrmidon76 614]

I could care less who wants to leave. If you don't want to be a Hoosier just to be a Hoosier....hit the road. IF they stay...learn defense or don't waste my time.

[Josh 12,621]

Troy 2-10, 2 TOs

JBJ 4-11, 5 TOs

RoJo 2-6, 1 TO

 

8-27 or 30% and 8 TOs from your supporting cast.  That's not going to get it done. 

 

There it is.

[emily.whitney0 8]

"Take another lil' piece of my heart, now baby..." The only difference between this and my first heartbreak is that I can't effectively stalk them from ATL..#IUBB

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Man, that just hurt. The boys looked like they were fighting to get over the slump of the past two months. Just a terrible way to end the season.

[8bucks 6,430]

They started well but and looked confident. WSU was gassed and we had a chance to go up big to end the half. We gave that up and in the second half they adjusted and forced our offense to stall.

Too many times this happens to IU down the stretch.

[hoosha61 386]

I don't know if I have ever seen as big of disparity between offense and defense as this team displayed. There are many reasons for our successes and failures. None were as important as our lack of defense.