IU vs. MSU Postgame

[AKHoosier 6,654]

I don't know if anyone listens to Query and Schultz on AM 1260, but one of them made a pretty good point yesterday.

 

If a change is made, there is going to have to be a clean parting of ways between Crean and IU in order for us to hire an elite coach.  It would make it easier to guys like Donovan, Stevens, Hoiberg, etc. to walk into a situation where the previous coach left to take another job, rather than getting fired.

 

The new coach doesn't want to have it on his conscience that he was brought in because the other guy was kicked to the curb.  It makes sense.

 

There's a reason Fred Glass went to ESPN and other media outlets pumping up Crean's accomplishments.  He basically sounded like Crean's PR agent by touting his beating of ranked teams, winning the B1G, going to 2 Sweet Sixteens, producing NBA lottery picks, etc. 

 

After hearing that, things are starting to add up a little....

[JG84 94]

Emotionally, I'm spent. My sports life lives around IU and I still support the university, but where do I go from here. Honestly, cannot get excited about BTT and unless we pull a rabbit out of our hat, we aren't making the tournament. Our head coaching position may or may not be up for grabs. Someone give me something positive for the future cause right I don't see much.

[Hovadipo 54,060]

Missed this and it might have already been posted, but Devin dressed today.

[Zeebruh 57]

Emotionally, I'm spent. My sports life lives around IU and I still support the university, but where do I go from here. Honestly, cannot get excited about BTT and unless we pull a rabbit out of our hat, we aren't making the tournament. Our head coaching position may or may not be up for grabs. Someone give me something positive for the future cause right I don't see much.

Well we have a good shot at getting one (if not two) 5-star big men for next year. Gotta stay positive! I'm with ya about being sad but if we get some more pieces I see us getting a lot better in years to come. We are very young!

[JaybobHoosier 11,839]

For now go to the baseball thread! :)

Watching the game for the first time. Still can't believe they didn't call the foul to end the half on Yogi lol. WOW!

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

Maybe run them a little less ragged during practice, especially towards the end of the season, and spend a little more energy during the game?

You would at least agree the team hasn't showed enough fight the last month or so right?

No question about that. What does that have to do with Crean's practices? Seems to me it's more about the dogs in the fight.

Crean hasn't run them ragged. He never has... It's a story that has gotten around from other coaches in the business who use it against Crean in recruiting. You guys eat it up. All the coaches love Peegs because our fans will believe anything.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

We could do worse but the longer we wait to bring someone in is more chance that will slip into mediocrity forever. Look at Ucla that could be Iu if nothing gets changed

Uh, think we're already there. Unless you guys all woke up yesterday.

[Hovadipo 54,060]

This site is looking a little better than the ITH comments section today. Rumors are running rampant over there. Getting ugly.

[brandct 610]

No question about that. What does that have to do with Crean's practices? Seems to me it's more about the dogs in the fight.

Crean hasn't run them ragged. He never has... It's a story that has gotten around from other coaches in the business who use it against Crean in recruiting. You guys eat it up. All the coaches love Peegs because our fans will believe anything.

So you have been in his practices and walk throughs to know just how hard on them he is? You are pretty much so one sided on this that it is not really even worth arguing with you. 

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

i disagree with the first paragraph. He's not demonstrated those things. He's demonstrated the ability to get Great players that can win just enough games.

Getting players is the name of the game. Ask Dane Fife about his X's and O's. Subbing... Criticizing that is so ridiculous. You are going to make sub mistakes in every single game that you coach. It's not that big of a problem... Maybe you guys have seen these coaches that never make mistakes, but I don't see them.

[HoosierintheFort 8]

Start up the Randy Quaid rant.....

"You rotten bums! You over paid weenies.! Tom Crean you make my butt sting! You make everything embarrassing! Back up the truck BACK IT UP!!!"

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

So you have been in his practices and walk throughs to know just how hard on them he is? You are pretty much so one sided on this that it is not really even worth arguing with you.

He's demanding. That used to be a good thing... Only for certain coaches I suppose.

Yes I have seen it. And heard about it on a daily basis the two years prior to this. They don't have 4 hour practices. There's so much misinformation on here and it just gets fueled.

I'm not trying to battle or debate anyone. We all have no choice in the matter. He's either gonna stay or he's not. What I know is IU will get what it deserves.

[brandct 610]

He's demanding. That used to be a good thing... Only for certain coaches I suppose.

Yes I have seen it. And heard about it on a daily basis the two years prior to this. They don't have 4 hour practices. There's so much misinformation on here and it just gets fueled.

I'm not trying to battle or debate anyone. We all have no choice in the matter. He's either gonna stay or he's not. What I know is IU will get what it deserves.

 

 

And in most fans eyes IU deserves better than Crean. 

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

This site is looking a little better than the ITH comments section today. Rumors are running rampant over there. Getting ugly.

That is surprising. ITH is usually pro Crean. Does seem kinda slow around here today.

[JaybobHoosier 11,839]

No question about that. What does that have to do with Crean's practices? Seems to me it's more about the dogs in the fight.

Crean hasn't run them ragged. He never has... It's a story that has gotten around from other coaches in the business who use it against Crean in recruiting. You guys eat it up. All the coaches love Peegs because our fans will believe anything.

I have other close sources who completely disagree with you and practices. Just an fyi

[8bucks 6,301]

Everyone seems so argumentative. I know some of you this week have said you know believe Crean should go at seasons end but now you are arguing as if Crean is the most logical coach for us next year.

Is it just one of those days to argue semantics?

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

I have other close sources who completely disagree with you and practices. Just an fyi

Everyone sees what they want to see. Crean treats you like sh!t? He runs his teams too hard... Crean hasn't ever crossed you, his practices are fine.

There are going to be cases on both sides. I choose to trust the opinion of a guy like Izzo, guy like Pitino. They know. They don't bullsh!t around.

[Hovadipo 54,060]

That is surprising. ITH is usually pro Crean. Does seem kinda slow around here today.

Seems like they censor a LOT over there. I think I saw 3 seperate Crean rumors on there in the Minute After comments section though.

[brandct 610]

Everyone sees what they want to see. Crean treats you like ****? He runs his teams too hard... Crean hasn't ever crossed you, his practices are fine.

There are going to be cases on both sides. I choose to trust the opinion of a guy like Izzo, guy like Pitino. They know. They don't bullsh!t around.

 

Other head coaches should not be in your practices or walk throughs before games. So to me they should have no clue what he puts them through. 

[JaybobHoosier 11,839]

Everyone sees what they want to see. Crean treats you like sh!t? He runs his teams too hard... Crean hasn't ever crossed you, his practices are fine.

There are going to be cases on both sides. I choose to trust the opinion of a guy like Izzo, guy like Pitino. They know. They don't bullsh!t around.

Lol, ok. Apparently you can't see the other side. I have SOURCES, but you would rather keep saying you are right.