Potential fallout from coaching change

[djsalway 4,161]

I don't necessarily think that hiring Gregg Marshall is a transcendent hire or a home run, but he is certainly one of the hottest names out there and I believe he would be successful. He isn't 1 or 2 on my list, but he is certainly #3.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,771]

My brain is running wild with the NCAA matchup now.  We get our LOWEST possible seed as a #10 and Wichita State gets its HIGHEST possible seed as a #7. 

 

Something stinks in suburbia! 

 

I genuinely hope not.

[BGleas 8,220]

I think Crean will be back next year, but on Marshall the guy has finished 1st or 2nd in his conference in 14 of his 17 years. He might not be the sexy hire with Stevens being out there, but the guy flat out wins basketball games.

[IUsafety 2,775]

There is no way we can hire Marshall if we upset them in the tournament. Right?

[Scooter D 928]

This thread is pure insanity.

[Feathery 4,005]

I wouldn't call it a homerun either. I think Marshall is an upgrade but in fairness his tourney history isn't any better, but at least his Final Four is recent while Crean wad over 5 years removed and hadnt even done much in regular season.

Their regular season careers aren't even close to a comparison, Marshall blows him out of the water, but postseason isn't much different.

BTW, Pitino wanted this job before when he was coaching Louisville.

IU wanted nothing to do with him bc of his salary demands. UL is going to give him a raise of we come knocking. Do you really think IU will break the bank on Pitino? 5-6 million?

Regular season should be what we are looking at. We got a mediocre coach bc we saw he had a final four the ncaa tournament is a crap shoot. The regular season shows you if you can have sustained success. It shows can you win championships. If the answer is yes then you have the right guy. Bc once he gets to IU his talent level will raise and tournament success will follow. Will their be upsets? Yes. Will there be good runs? Yes. The key is to have the consistancy to be a threat most years.

[Kyleweberiu 386]

. I would not be very excited if we hired Marshall. I don't see him taking on the challenge of IU and being any better than Crean, honestly. It's going to take a very very special coach to satisfy our fanbase. HomeRun or chug along with Crean. **I believe the HomeRun is coming this spring.

Bennett

[Feathery 4,005]

I think Crean will be back next year, but on Marshall the guy has finished 1st or 2nd in his conference in 14 of his 17 years. He might not be the sexy hire with Stevens being out there, but the guy flat out wins basketball games.

I get where you are coming from but I have the opposite view. Even before his radio stuff last night I thought Crean was gone just by the way he has been carrying himself. Calm and at peace. Being emotional after games. Totally out of character for him. The coach we are used to seeing is spastic and if he is emotional after a game it's a blow by hand shake or going after a Michigan assistant. He is actually looking like he is fighting off tears. To me that's a sign of a man that knows his time is short and he will be leaving ppl that he loves behind. I could be wrong but it's just my assumption from his body language/emotions.

[Hovadipo 59,172]

Heard this quite a few times, never from anyone I consider super sourced though. Doesn't mean it isn't true though. The rest of this rumor is Crean to Alabama and Marshall will be Indiana's next coach. It's rumored to be a done deal already.

This would make me an unhappy person.

[Feathery 4,005]

This would make me an unhappy person.

Why? What doesn't Marshall bring to the table? Assume Stevens says no.

[Hovadipo 59,172]

Why? What doesn't Marshall bring to the table? Assume Stevens says no.

Well you're calling out everyone that doesn't want him, so tell me what you like so much about him. Change my mind.

[JSHoosier 21,491]

IU wanted nothing to do with him bc of his salary demands. UL is going to give him a raise of we come knocking. Do you really think IU will break the bank on Pitino? 5-6 million?

Regular season should be what we are looking at. We got a mediocre coach bc we saw he had a final four the ncaa tournament is a crap shoot. The regular season shows you if you can have sustained success. It shows can you win championships. If the answer is yes then you have the right guy. Bc once he gets to IU his talent level will raise and tournament success will follow. Will their be upsets? Yes. Will there be good runs? Yes. The key is to have the consistancy to be a threat most years.

Don't get me wrong, I like Marshall but I wouldn't consider him a homerun. He'd be no better than 3rd on my list though and you can't just assume other options will say no. You have to put feelers out and guage their interest and if they say no then go down the list.

IIRC it was said the funds were there for a big salary, like in the 5-6 million range

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

I do not dislike him so much, I just do not see his resume as being greater than our current coach. Hes had a nice run with these current players. But his success is in a much lower tier conference than Creans Big East years. He may be a good hire, but I do not have confidence that be can sustain.

[Hutch89 2,946]

Has Marshall been successful at recruiting at Wichita State?   On the surface it looks like he has a lot of seniors who play very well.

If this all comes to fruition, my hope is that Marshall would be able to recruit at a high level at Indiana (B1G, fan-base, facilities, etc.), and also continue to coach these kids the way he has been at Wichita. 

[TomPritchard25 526]

Well you're calling out everyone that doesn't want him, so tell me what you like so much about him. Change my mind.

the .715 win % a, the 14/17 1 or 2 place finishes in conference, the undefeated season, the tourney run. The defense. The x and o's in game situations. The taking average players (van fleet & baker) and making them national figures.

[mdn82 25,767]

At what point do we look at a coach who has been at a mid major for so long and say there must be a reason he doesn't have a major job? I am a Bears fan and Trestman won everywhere he had been and done it for a while. He came to the Bears and couldn't coach at this level. How do we know he can recruit against UK, UL, OSU, UM, and MSU? Stevens took two teams to a final four and is in the NBA. That in itself can recruit. Marshall went to one Final Four and can coach. Will he get the talent needed to win? To me it is a double but not a home run.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

the .715 win % a, the 14/17 1 or 2 place finishes in conference, the undefeated season, the tourney run. The defense. The x and o's in game situations. The taking average players (van fleet & baker) and making them national figures.

Crean had all of this at Marquette.

 

Marshall also has many early tournament exits. I want someone who has truly proven themselves. Our program has made too many hires that looked like they had potential and ended in disappointment.

[Hovadipo 59,172]

the .715 win % a, the 14/17 1 or 2 place finishes in conference, the undefeated season, the tourney run. The defense. The x and o's in game situations. The taking average players (van fleet & baker) and making them national figures.

All solid points. But I feel like any solid coach could succeed in the MVC or whatever conference Winthrop is in. And VanVleet, Baker, and Early aren't really average players, they just weren't highly recruited. He did a great job there. Marshall is definitely a good coach, no argument there but I want someone with high level head coaching experience. I don't want someone in here that can just keep us afloat. That's where we are right now. I (and all of us) want someone that will come in here and have sustained success. I'm just not convinced that's Marshall because he's lived in the mid-major level and had a tourney run that made him much shinier than I think he really is.

[Banksyrules 5,265]

Crean had all of this at Marquette.

Marshall also has many early tournament exits. I want someone who has truly proven themselves. Our program has made too many hires that looked like they had potential and ended in disappointment.

Open your eyes and look at the film. Even with their losses they look fundamentally sound. When they played Kentucky last they played, they just couldn't match up athletically. All his team lacks is athletic ability and that should be resolved if he brings in recruits who want to go to a higher profile school.
If we beat him look at the game objectively. You'll notice that whenever IU goes for a shot a man will be there to front them. Look how they pass the ball in their offensive sets to create shots. It's not as simple as winning or losing when u coach in a non power conference. Not saying that's who I want but he would be better then coach Crean .

[KingPG21 6,587]

At what point do we look at a coach who has been at a mid major for so long and say there must be a reason he doesn't have a major job?

Jim Larranga kind of fits in this category. Dude didn't coach anywhere big, then landed the Miami job after one tourney run. He turned Miami from someone team that only occasionally has a real good team, to a team that is mostly the exact same thing.