College Bball Thread

[CSP]

Just now, kreigh8 said:

Admittedly hadn't read any of the reports just what's shared here. No clue on how old his daughter is. Wasn't sure if it was a minor or not he assaulted

Ok. If he's a minor, obviously that can change things... that would have been a separate charge though, right? 

[HoosierAloha]

Story breaks - people jump to conclusions without knowing the facts.

This is not to downplay domestic assaults or choking a MFer if that is the case. Choices have consequences but due diligence is needed to assess and analyze. If he was in the wrong he should be punished.

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Does he if the scenario I described was the case? Not sure if other's here with daughters share my thoughts but you'd have to keep me from killing a mf'er if he was beating up on my daughter.

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Sisters are included here. Or moms. But yeah, I'm with you 100%. There is a scenario here where he should be commended, and also plenty where he should be doing time. 

[IUc2016]

Assault on a family member would include blood relation, romantic relationship, or household member.

So if it is the daughter's bf, he would have to live with them unless this was incorrectly charged

[Josh]

2 hours ago, GnarlyTimGarl said:

I seem to recall a few folks saying they heard "things" about Beard during our last coaching search which led them to believe he would not be considered an option for IU. But no one would give specifics. Most people just assumed he was a lock for Texas and that was that but now I am wondering if this was the sort of "thing" they were talking about. I don't know... I just find it interesting.

I always thought it was a little weird that it appeared IU had no interest in Beard as coach because he seemed to be a good fit on several fronts. However, with this news, I am very glad we went with Woody. If the IU search committee uncovered a few potential "red flags" that caused us to go in another direction then good on them. IU certainly doesn't need someone like that as the head basketball coach.

I saw a podcast at the time with Goodman where he alluded to drinking issues.  

[kreigh8]

6 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Does he if the scenario I described was the case? Not sure if other's here with daughters share my thoughts but you'd have to keep me from killing a mf'er if he was beating up on my daughter.

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Apologies, just hadn't read or heard anything about a daughters bf until now. Knowing his direct family consists of 4 women and his oldest daughter is only 20, I just found that a bit repulsive and would assume he has to get fired in addition to whatever legal consequences.

Not sure where you stand on retaliation against women, just had only saw the reports of an assault on a family member and knowing what his family consists of from when it was speculated that he could be a potential IU basketball head coaching candidate is what caused me to think he has to get fired.

[HoosierAloha]

A coach is charged with assaulting a family member and we've turned to how that might help us with recruiting, seems reasonable...

[rcbowla]

Apologies, just hadn't read or heard anything about a daughters bf until now. Knowing his direct family consists of 4 women and his oldest daughter is only 20, I just found that a bit repulsive and would assume he has to get fired in addition to whatever legal consequences.
Not sure where you stand on retaliation against women, just had only saw the reports of an assault on a family member and knowing what his family consists of from when it was speculated that he could be a potential IU basketball head coaching candidate is what caused me to think he has to get fired.

My stance is you don't retaliate unless you believe your life is in danger. Instead you leave the crazy (been there in younger years).

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[kreigh8]

2 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

My stance is you don't retaliate unless you believe your life is in danger. Instead you leave the crazy (been there in younger years).

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Fair enough just hadn't heard about a bf until now. All the headline reports have been family member. Not sure on all the legal terminology as I don't have children, so unsure what would require a daughter's bf to be reported as a family member (same legal residence?). Far too early for me to really care to speculate just my immediate reaction was he probably should be fired. To your point, far too early to jump to any conclusion though

[rcbowla]

Fair enough just hadn't heard about a bf until now. All the headline reports have been family member. Not sure on all the legal terminology as I don't have children, so unsure what would require a daughter's bf to be reported as a family member

Yeah I'm also unsure on that and my initial thought was likely the same as yours...blood relative but then that wouldn't be a GF either.

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[kreigh8]

1 minute ago, rcs29 said:

Yeah I'm also unsure on that and my initial thought was likely the same as yours...blood relative but then that wouldn't be a GF either.

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Per his Texas bio he's engaged. Unsure if that would also change the reporting or not

[Hovadipo]

 

[pumpfake]

30 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

What if the family doesn't want to press charges?

I *think* I've seen something about once a complaint is lodged and an arrest is made, the charges stick (perhaps to prevent coersion?).  I might have seen it on "COPs" or another similar show, so don't take this as definitive.

[rcbowla]

And then there's this:

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[IUc2016]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 

yes, daughter's bf wouldn't make sense given the domestic charge. 

Also makes sense why Beard's attorney came out and said the complainant wanted him released immediately. Domestic issues are so scary in that the victim gets abused and reaches out for help but then recants the story so their partner can come home. And the cycle continues. 

NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE, JUST WHAT HAPPENS A LOT IN DOMESTIC SITUATIONS. 

[rcbowla]

Remarkable....he's likely to go unscathed. If he choked his fiance A) he should be gone given his profession B) she needs to run far, far away from him

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[rcbowla]

yes, daughter's bf wouldn't make sense given the domestic charge. 
Also makes sense why Beard's attorney came out and said the complainant wanted him released immediately. Domestic issues are so scary in that the victim gets abused and reaches out for help but then recants the story so their partner can come home. And the cycle continues. 
NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED HERE, JUST WHAT HAPPENS A LOT IN DOMESTIC SITUATIONS. 

It's tragic because as Stuhoo eluded to earlier this is probably not the 1st time and probably not the last. You don't beat up on a women for the first time at his age. Sadly what is most likely to happen is what you described and him just going on without punishment of any kind which also makes him feel empowered to continue the behavior.

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[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

he's likely to go unscathed

Is it likely? If I understand correctly, assuming the complainant is able to actually drop the charges (which I'm not sure here...pumpfake's post above makes sense to me), the state can still pursue a case.

I know nothing about the law, but someone that does can correct me if I'm wrong there. I just don't see him walking away from this knowing what we currently know. 

[rcbowla]

Is it likely? If I understand correctly, assuming the complainant is able to actually drop the charges (which I'm not sure here...pumpfake's post above makes sense to me), the state can still pursue a case.
I know nothing about the law, but someone that does can correct me if I'm wrong there. I just don't see him walking away from this knowing what we currently know. 

Might be tough without victim's testimony?

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[MyDRockHard]

For our attorneys on the board:

In my time surfing YouTube court, I believe I have seen instances where the prosecutor will go forward with DV chargers without the victims cooperation. I believe it was something they had to do once a DV charge was filed. Would this depend on the jurisdiction? 

Edited December 12, 2022 by IGotMeAWoody
DV for Domestic Violence