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Just like when coaches inherit a bad team and you have to wait 3 years or so to see what type of coach they will be the same can be said with Howard and the types of players he brings in and how he develops them. He was set up for success this year with the roster he was left so let’s see how he does in years 2-4


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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

It’s the difference between a coach inheriting Jon Teske  at center and Simpson at point versus inheriting McSwain at center and Newkirk at point.

And Archie went 9-9 in conference with his first team.

 

LOL. You mention only McSwain and Newkirk, as if he inherited Creans first team, but not Robert Johnson, Hartman, Al, Green, Smith, Morgan or Davis.......Yes, Teske is very good but Howard did lose over 60% of their scoring. It’s waaaaaayyyyy to early for Howard to receive a victory flag but he is off to a good start.

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LOL. You mention only McSwain and Newkirk, as if he inherited Creans first team, but not Robert Johnson, Hartman, Al, Green, Smith, Morgan or Davis.......Yes, Teske is very good but Howard did lose over 60% of their scoring. It’s waaaaaayyyyy to early for Howard to receive a victory flag but he is off to a good start.

That’s right. I think many like to underplay the talent that returned Archie’s first 2 seasons as if we were naturally a bottom feeder. Those teams had talent; maybe not bigten championship talent but enough not to get smoked by ISU and IPFW and go on 10 game losing streaks.

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

LOL. You mention only McSwain and Newkirk, as if he inherited Creans first team, but not Robert Johnson, Hartman, Al, Green, Smith, Morgan or Davis.......Yes, Teske is very good but Howard did lose over 60% of their scoring. It’s waaaaaayyyyy to early for Howard to receive a victory flag but he is off to a good start.

He had Morgan and RoJo. Davis only played in 15 games. Hartman was hurt a fair part of the year too. 
Al and Smith were freshmen, and Green was a very erratic sophomore.

Surely you’re not comparing any of them to Teske or Simpson.

 

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

He had Morgan and RoJo. Davis only played in 15 games. Hartman was hurt a fair part of the year too. 
Al and Smith were freshmen, and Green was a very erratic sophomore.

Surely you’re not comparing any of them to Teske or Simpson.

 

No, I’m not comparing them to Teske but don’t pretend you weren’t trying to make Archie’s cupboard look as empty as possible by only mentioning Newkirk and Freddie.

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1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

No, I’m not comparing them to Teske but don’t pretend you weren’t trying to make Archie’s cupboard look as empty as possible by only mentioning Newkirk and Freddie.

No; I was highlighting that they both started. One of them at pg.

A walkon started a whole bunch of games too.

 

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Anyone know what ever happened to that 3 year deal we were working on to play Arizona starting this year? Was suppose to be home-home then Madison Square Garden for year 3.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

No; I was highlighting that they both started. One of them at pg.

A walkon started a whole bunch of games too.

 

McSwain started 8 of 31 games.

And.....in my initial post I did not mention Archie, IU etc but was pointing out that UM is looking good, most people, even knowing who was coming back, picked them 5th or 6th in the BT and that he had lost his three top scorers but had a good core from a winning program. What is disputable about that?

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1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

McSwain started 8 of 31 games.

I guessing the starts at the five mainly went to McSwain and Hartman once Davis got hurt.

i guess you could call Juwan the five too, but while he was an excellent college player, when he’s the five that’s rough.

 

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