6'4" Guard Nick Zeisloft joins Hoosiers

[schoosier 3,522]

Sheehey was a one trick pony. Johnson has a whole skill set. And can handle the ball.

Which one was that? Scoring, rebounding or typically guarding the opposition's best player? Didn't he make the 1000 point club also? He averaged in double figures in points, over 4 rebounds a game and led us in steals last year. He was named honorable mention all B1G and led us to the sweet 16 by hitting the game winning shot vs VCU his sophmore year. Sure, one trick pony. Johnson in my estimation has his work cut out just to match Wil's college numbers.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Which one was that? Scoring, rebounding or typically guarding the opposition's best player? Didn't he make the 1000 point club also? He averaged in double figures in points, over 4 rebounds a game and led us in steals last year. He was named honorable mention all B1G and led us to the sweet 16 by hitting the game winning shot vs VCU his sophmore year. Sure, one trick pony. Johnson in my estimation has his work cut out just to match Wil's college numbers.

I'd be happy if Johnson can replace the fire that Will brought to every game. I'm confident Johnson can reach his numbers, but Will brought some serious intangibles to the team.

[Kepner 1,261]

I agreed until that statement. Rob may be more consistent but on a much lower level. Sheehey won us games. RoJo probably won't do that this year or even next year.

I said Sheehey of last year. Sure he won us games in the last few years but last year was a let down Sheehey was a let down for me. It was his time to shine and he really disappeared till towards the end of the season. No one will ever be able to replace the fire that Sheehey brought but I think he was the ultimate 6th man. Last year he just wasn't very consistent like the team needed. I think Rob Johnson will bring the same , if not more, production in the scoring category.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Has everyone lost their minds?!

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,794]

Of all the comparisons they are probably the worst in my list. I only matched them up as they occupy a similar roster spot. It could have been Rojo vs Gordon and Blackmon vs Sheehey too.

I loved Sheehey as a 6th man and his intensity but for most of the season last year his shooting was crazy erratic. He was no better wide open compared to being contested. He was around 32% from 3 and had some really BAD misses. Would I want him on this years roster? Yes! Would I want him as an offensive focal point? No way.


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[HoosierD 504]

Last year Sheehey is better than freshman Rob. They each have different things they do better than the other but as an all around player you gotta give an easy nod to a senior Sheehey.

If you turn it around and compare Rob to Gordon and JB to Sheehey, then Rob wins and the latter of the two is much closer. Still, they would each do different things better than the other but for what we needed last year and need this year JB may work better. As an all around player Sheehey may still be more polished because he was a senior, but pure talent JB is the man.

I don't think anyone was trying to knock Sheehey or forget what all he did for IU. I think some words were taken wrong and got twisted. I don't think anything that anyone has said is necessarily wrong, but I think if you give Rob 4 years, he will most certainly match what Sheehey did numbers wise.


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[BGleas 7,917]

The thing I have to challenge you on is that you say we can't criticize players who we haven't seen play yet. But, you can say that we can count on Hoetzel to score on a regular basis? How do we know that if we haven't seen him play yet? I'm very optimistic on Hoetzel's potential long-term, but I'm not sure how anyone can say we can count on him for consistent scoring as a freshmen.

I'd even say the same for Zeisloft. He showed at his last school that he's not a consistent scorer. He shot well in Canada, but in the 5 games we really only play 2 real teams. Not exactly a Big Ten slate. Using results in the Canada trip is like comparing the NBA Summer League to the NBA regular season.

I think the big difference in these comparisons is that this year we have more guys who can be relied upon for scoring on a frequent basis. Etherington, Gordon, Hollowell and Howard couldn't be counted upon to score on a regular basis. Their "replacements" (by your comparison) Blackmon, Zeisloft,and Hoetzel will be able to score on a regular basis. I also think that Rob Johnson will end up being more reliable this year than Sheehey was last year

[Kepner 1,261]

The thing I have to challenge you on is that you say we can't criticize players who we haven't seen play yet. But, you can say that we can count on Hoetzel to score on a regular basis? How do we know that if we haven't seen him play yet? I'm very optimistic on Hoetzel's potential long-term, but I'm not sure how anyone can say we can count on him for consistent scoring as a freshmen.

I'd even say the same for Zeisloft. He showed at his last school that he's not a consistent scorer. He shot well in Canada, but in the 5 games we really only play 2 real teams. Not exactly a Big Ten slate. Using results in the Canada trip is like comparing the NBA Summer League to the NBA regular season.

I like your point. I was mainly pointing out that he compared Hoetzel taking Jeff Howard's spot and Zeisloft taking Etherington's spot. Even if Hoetzel and Zeisloft score a bucket or two every game, that will be more offensive input that Howard or Etherington had. I, like everyone else on this message board, am talking hypothetical situations

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

I don't think anyone is downing Sheehey here---he's a favorite and member of the IU All-Swagger Team----but we expected more from him than his skillset could deliver last year.

 

However--- I actually agree with Fkfootball that RoJo's ceiling is higher.  He may not get there as a freshman but I think he does as a sophomore.   We shall see!

[Stuhoo 82,147]

Jeff Rabjohns @JeffRabjohns

RT @peegs Nick Zeisloft talks about his leadership, rooming with Yogi Ferrell, lots more

 

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Nick Zeisloft and Yogi are roommates.

 

I really, really like that.

[BubbleKnuts 569]

Jeff Rabjohns @JeffRabjohns

RT @peegs Nick Zeisloft talks about his leadership, rooming with Yogi Ferrell, lots more

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Nick Zeisloft and Yogi are roommates.

I really, really like that.

Chemistry baby.


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[Stuhoo 82,147]

Chemistry baby.


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Not quite; more like creating the conditions for Yogi to treat his less experienced teammates as their leader, not as their "cover for me" buddy.

[BubbleKnuts 569]

True too, man. But the only way we will know is when they hit the wood. (Huh uh.)


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[FKfootball 1,046]

Im excited guys. We have an All Big Ten PG. We have a SG that may win FOTY in the conference. We have an experienced sniper in NZ. We have a bulldog wing that can overpower a lot of guards. We have a future All Big Ten guard in Johnson. I mean, I cant remember a backcourt at IU that was this deep. Guard play wins in College Basketball. The frontcourt is thin, but Perea, Davis, and Williams can make plays. Its not an elite front line but we've seen worse(Kline, Roberts, Ewing).

[MikeRoberts 7,233]

Im excited guys. We have an All Big Ten PG. We have a SG that may win FOTY in the conference. We have an experienced sniper in NZ. We have a bulldog wing that can overpower a lot of guards. We have a future All Big Ten guard in Johnson. I mean, I cant remember a backcourt at IU that was this deep. Guard play wins in College Basketball. The frontcourt is thin, but Perea, Davis, and Williams can make plays. Its not an elite front line but we've seen worse(Kline, Roberts, Ewing).

did you have to throw Roberts in there? Jk:) couldn't agree more. This season is going to be interesting


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[JSHoosier 20,601]

Im excited guys. We have an All Big Ten PG. We have a SG that may win FOTY in the conference. We have an experienced sniper in NZ. We have a bulldog wing that can overpower a lot of guards. We have a future All Big Ten guard in Johnson. I mean, I cant remember a backcourt at IU that was this deep. Guard play wins in College Basketball. The frontcourt is thin, but Perea, Davis, and Williams can make plays. Its not an elite front line but we've seen worse(Kline, Roberts, Ewing).

I have to ask, how is Ziesloft in any way a "sniper"?  He's a career 38% shooter from deep, and shot 35% last season.  Now that's not bad, but it's hardly a "sniper".  Defenses may not ignore that on the court, but they won't game plan to take it away either.

 

Exhibitions are completely meaningless, so let's just go ahead and get that out of the way.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

What was his % the other season? Is that % considered to be a "sniper?"

[MikeRoberts 7,233]

He is an aggregate 38% 3 point shooter. People talked about how poor we were from deep last year and that was our team average. He is an average 3 point shooter, at least to date. Maybe he improves this year but nothing about him screams "sniper"


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[JSHoosier 20,601]

What was his % the other season? Is that % considered to be a "sniper?"

He shot 35% last season, and 38% for his career, not hardly a "sniper".  He's okay, but he shouldn't be considered some sort of shooting specialist.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

What was his % the other season? Is that % considered to be a "sniper?"

Believe he shot 46%