IUBB vs Iowa - Saturday, 01.17.26 @ 2:00 on Fox TV

[Kentuckysucks]

There is a solution and honestly, it's probably about the only way we ever turn this ship around. 

https://x.com/i/status/1893010639192211723

[Pagoda]

4 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

There is a solution and honestly, it's probably about the only way we ever turn this ship around. 

https://x.com/i/status/1893010639192211723

Idk.  He got a nice NIL bump for this season, top third of the SEC now in NIL, and he’s stinking it up, Ole Miss is #59 in KenPom.

[coonhounds]

The only positive is if this season plays out the way it looks like it will there won't be any false narrative that this staff should believe they are on the right track. Let's say we had a season where we barely made the tournament and get blasted like a woody then they could think ok some stuff worked but we need to get a bit better.  In the pre NIL that could help get some recruits and maybe build something lol. In the case we are staring at everyone will go into this off season knowing they have to make major changes and go all out on saving their jobs lol. Thats it for me

[str8baller]

21 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

There is a solution and honestly, it's probably about the only way we ever turn this ship around. 

https://x.com/i/status/1893010639192211723

Guy is a small time, big fish in a small pond chump who wilts at the slightest hint of pressure or expectations. I couldn’t think of a worse hire for IU. If he got this job he’d make Shooter from Hoosiers look like a benedictine Monk.

[newcastle12]

31 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

There is a solution and honestly, it's probably about the only way we ever turn this ship around. 

https://x.com/i/status/1893010639192211723

I'd rather lose.  Plus he's worse than us this year.  What a terrible take..  Do you watch ball?

[reconmkd]

36 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I haven't paid much attention to this, but does DeVries ever work the officials? Like, really go after them and intimidate them? Having a coach who does that can completely flip a game where things aren't going well. Washington had a 7-1 foul advantage at one point in the second half. Nebraska players packed enough suitcases to fill an airplane last weekend, no whistles. Iowa had a dude travel twice on the same play today, nothing. Wilkerson guarding a guy who trips on a nail, foul. 

 

Assembly Hall used to be worth about 10 points because our crowd could influence how a game was officiated. Today, I'd say it's near zero, maybe even a net negative. Nobody dreads coming here anymore. 

He definitely talks to them but I don’t know that I have seen him “go after” a ref. In all honesty, he and the entire staff could use a little fire. Down the whole game and our staff couldn’t muster enough to move from their seats, even in the 2 short runs when we got within 5.  Meanwhile the entire Iowa staff is up and directing and pushing their team. Smh. This going to be a long season! Can we add another football season after Monday?

[Kentuckysucks]

45 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

I'd rather lose.  Plus he's worse than us this year.  What a terrible take..  Do you watch ball?

Yes I do.  Does Rick Pitino know ball?

[pumpfake]

My view is that Cig has been so successful because he has a solid system, and (mostly because) he identifies talented players that don't have lots of stars next to their name.  I have little doubt that such players are out there, but does DD have the reach to find and/or identify them?

I don't see him luring high demand difference makers during the portal period. And we need multiple difference makers. I don't know if the answer is to bring in a super recruiter or expand contacts overseas.

[sirhoosierlot]

8 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

My view is that Cig has been so successful because he has a solid system, and (mostly because) he identifies talented players that don't have lots of stars next to their name.  I have little doubt that such players are out there, but does DD have the reach to find and/or identify them?

I don't see him luring high demand difference makers during the portal period. And we need multiple difference makers. I don't know if the answer is to bring in a super recruiter or expand contacts overseas.

Idk if it’s much about the stars by their name as much as identifying people that are going to be 100% bought into what you want them to do. From assistant coaches to players. 

[ronzo4IU]

2 hours ago, hoopsta007 said:

I think the NIL argument works both ways for a team and its fans.  There is optimism that next year can be better but to be honest it makes bad times worse knowing the coach and these players are getting rich while putting this product out 

There should be clauses in contacts for coaches to give money back if they stink.

[newcastle12]

42 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Yes I do.  Does Rick Pitino know ball?

Well he's 59 in Kenpom with a top 3rd SEC budget, so Calipari is probably is running cover for a member of the good ole boy network than giving actual advice.  

Plus you know, he's a drunk.  

[newcastle12]

29 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

My view is that Cig has been so successful because he has a solid system, and (mostly because) he identifies talented players that don't have lots of stars next to their name.  I have little doubt that such players are out there, but does DD have the reach to find and/or identify them?

I don't see him luring high demand difference makers during the portal period. And we need multiple difference makers. I don't know if the answer is to bring in a super recruiter or expand contacts overseas.

Cig was successful because he had a great system for talent identification at the lower levels

He brought most of the important parts of a top 25 team with him when he came.

The University greatly increased the football investment

And that was a pretty historically weak schedule to get him off to a great start, which then got the boosters to pony up a lot more money for this year, and next year..

There are very few Cigs out there.  

[ronzo4IU]

3 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Best case scenario is this year being a total anomaly because of all the setbacks of coming in and blowing it up (not that there was much to begin with) and not having a staff / core of players that you can plug and play. With 6 seniors leaving and very few players worth a pay increase to retain, I hope we can nail the scout in the portal this time around. Ultimately it's on DDV for not having things in place from the start... we're all paying the price for that now. But I don't think it's an insurmountable task now that he has his bearings here. He's had a lot of moves the past 3 seasons. Gotta show what he's learned next season and that starts now by cultivating the right portal targets. Hopefully those are identified correctly. 

Didn’t seem to be that big of a problem for Mcollum?  Looks like he just did a way better job scouting and coaching thus far.

This Iowa teal looked locked in and formidable.

[ronzo4IU]

3 hours ago, BGleas said:

I like DeVries, I really do. I just don't see how this gets much better than a bubble team next year too?

He's created no momentum and then has to go recruit an entire new team this off-season. 

I don't see how DeVries has the money, cache or momentum to go recruit an entire roster essentially that would be anything more than a bubble team. 

Again I like DeVries, I just don't have much confidence he can get us out of this mess. 

It will prob come down to weather big donors have the confidence in him to throw a big bag his way to overspend x at least 5 players in the portal.  That is the only way out as I can see. On that note…not looking good.

[Home Jersey]

11 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Didn’t seem to be that big of a problem for Mcollum?  Looks like he just did a way better job scouting and coaching thus far.

This Iowa teal looked locked in and formidable.

He brought plenty of players and staff with him. DDV didn't. That's exactly the difference I was describing.

[ronzo4IU]

5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

He brought plenty of players and staff with him. DDV didn't. That's exactly the difference I was describing.

Ok, I don’t remember who he brought except for Stirtz.  Coaching is also networking and keeping your assistants/strategy together and obviously Mcollum won on that front also.

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, ronzo4IU said:

Ok, I don’t remember who he brought except for Stirtz.  Coaching is also networking and keeping your assistants/strategy together and obviously Mcollum won on that front also.

Did I say DDV is better than McCollum? Nope. I was outlining a best case scenario explanation for the year. I actually really wanted to hire McCollum. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

It takes 8 guys.  10 for backup injury issues.  11-13 are practice/Development players. 

put the money there.  
 

we need to overspend on 3 proven legit guys.  
 

PG, SGSFPF, C

pay these guys. Get proven commodities.  
 

my example this year

Thornton, Reneau, Bidunga.  Just as an example. 

The other 5 spots.  Get best for value guys. Athlete, shooters, defenders.  They don’t have to do it all.  
 

Pay the roster.  Make it top heavy.  Generate excitement. 
 

Utilize overseas.  

[ronzo4IU]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Did I say DDV is better than McCollum? Nope. I was outlining a best case scenario explanation for the year. I actually really wanted to hire McCollum. 

I didn’t mean to imply that.  I was just referring to the fact that Mcollums transfer to Iowa had more of a strategy in place where as it didn’t seem DD did for whatever reason as you stated (also not having much to work with)
 

[Uspshoosier]

24 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Ok, I don’t remember who he brought except for Stirtz.  Coaching is also networking and keeping your assistants/strategy together and obviously Mcollum won on that front also.

DeVries 3 assistants at WV

1. Chester Frazier and Illinois grad who back in the day got into it with Eric Gordon when Gordon came back to play at Illinois. 0 chance he was coming to IU and Hansberry was going to follow him where ever 

2. Kory Barnett an IU grad that got the head coaching job at Oral Roberts   Head coaching opportunity is a better opportunity then being an assistant

3.  Tom Ostram    Ex IU assistant that already got fired from coaching at IU 

I get it really sucks IU is in this position however it’s not like McCollum has been lighting the world on fire at Iowa.   Until today he was 2-4 in conference with 0 road wins and 0 wins against tourney quality teams.   After today he is 3-4 in the league with his first road win and it’s debatable if he has a tourney quality win yet.   He clearly was the better coach today but until today his season was the same as DeVries.