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Other than, ya know, The Play and the Ponds pick 6 this was my favorite play in the playoffs. Lasers a throw from the left hash to the right sideline into a hole the size of a milk crate. Nuts. On QB evals I’ll never get why the arm talent data point isn’t essentially binary. When people talk about this kid not having “elite” arm talent, what are they actually talking about? What throw in an NFL playbook has he not demonstrated that he can make comfortably? Watched 4 Oregon games this year and I really need the explanation for why Moore has “elite” arm talent and Mendoza’s has “good” arm talent. 

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13 minutes ago, Demo said:

Other than, ya know, The Play and the Ponds pick 6 this was my favorite play in the playoffs. Lasers a throw from the left hash to the right sideline into a hole the size of a milk crate. Nuts. On QB evals I’ll never get why the arm talent data point isn’t essentially binary. When people talk about this kid not having “elite” arm talent, what are they actually talking about? What throw in an NFL playbook has he not demonstrated that he can make comfortably? Watched 4 Oregon games this year and I really need the explanation for why Moore has “elite” arm talent and Mendoza’s has “good” arm talent. 

It’s kind of funny that a guy like Anthony Richardson (who I actually like and would love to see him get a fresh start with someone who can afford to spend time developing him) gets labeled as someone with an elite arm coming out because he can throw a football through the Lucas Oil Stadium window, but he couldn’t make that throw shown above in a million billion years. 

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13 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

It’s kind of funny that a guy like Anthony Richardson (who I actually like and would love to see him get a fresh start with someone who can afford to spend time developing him) gets labeled as someone with an elite arm coming out because he can throw a football through the Lucas Oil Stadium window, but he couldn’t make that throw shown above in a million billion years. 

Remember Richard Lagow? Dude could probably throw it from one end zone to the other, but couldn't hit a receiver standing in front of him 15 yards away. 

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6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Remember Richard Lagow? Dude could probably throw it from one end zone to the other, but couldn't hit a receiver standing in front of him 15 yards away. 

I try not to but thanks!

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35 minutes ago, Demo said:

Other than, ya know, The Play and the Ponds pick 6 this was my favorite play in the playoffs. Lasers a throw from the left hash to the right sideline into a hole the size of a milk crate. Nuts. On QB evals I’ll never get why the arm talent data point isn’t essentially binary. When people talk about this kid not having “elite” arm talent, what are they actually talking about? What throw in an NFL playbook has he not demonstrated that he can make comfortably? Watched 4 Oregon games this year and I really need the explanation for why Moore has “elite” arm talent and Mendoza’s has “good” arm talent. 

Its the baseball equivalent of someone that can throw versus pitch. NFL teams would choose the arm strength over accuracy cuz they feel they can teach/improve the latter but outside of lifting weights I guess they feel that throwing a ball 80 yards regardless of placement is a God given gift. 

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39 minutes ago, Demo said:

Other than, ya know, The Play and the Ponds pick 6 this was my favorite play in the playoffs. Lasers a throw from the left hash to the right sideline into a hole the size of a milk crate. Nuts. On QB evals I’ll never get why the arm talent data point isn’t essentially binary. When people talk about this kid not having “elite” arm talent, what are they actually talking about? What throw in an NFL playbook has he not demonstrated that he can make comfortably? Watched 4 Oregon games this year and I really need the explanation for why Moore has “elite” arm talent and Mendoza’s has “good” arm talent. 

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I'm all out of Sunday tears. 

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20 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

It’s kind of funny that a guy like Anthony Richardson (who I actually like and would love to see him get a fresh start with someone who can afford to spend time developing him) gets labeled as someone with an elite arm coming out because he can throw a football through the Lucas Oil Stadium window, but he couldn’t make that throw shown above in a million billion years. 

Richardson is such a great example. The Pierce throw might be an all-time play, but how is just straight missing open guys with open throwing lanes not considered an arm talent problem? 

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18 hours ago, LIHoosier said:

Its the baseball equivalent of someone that can throw versus pitch. NFL teams would choose the arm strength over accuracy cuz they feel they can teach/improve the latter but outside of lifting weights I guess they feel that throwing a ball 80 yards regardless of placement is a God given gift. 

More about release and speed of ball to target and making all the throws than distance, but distance is an easy marker to talk about.
 

A good example is a guy like Chad Pennington. With Favre’s arm Pennington is a HoFer, easy. As it was he could barely make the throws he needed and as soon as his arm strength dipped a bit after injury he was completely washed. In all other aspects, he was a real good pro QB. Just had a noodle for an arm. 

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On 2/16/2026 at 6:24 AM, str8baller said:

More about release and speed of ball to target and making all the throws than distance, but distance is an easy marker to talk about.
 

A good example is a guy like Chad Pennington. With Favre’s arm Pennington is a HoFer, easy. As it was he could barely make the throws he needed and as soon as his arm strength dipped a bit after injury he was completely washed. In all other aspects, he was a real good pro QB. Just had a noodle for an arm. 

Also, look at Peyton and his arm.  He never had that elite arm strength, but he was accurate.  His passes were fluttering toward the end, but he knew where he wanted to put it.  I have always felt you can't teach the accuracy as easy as getting more power to throw longer.  Some of the distance can be gained with mechanics and weight training. You just don't see many arm strength guys get that much better with accuracy while you do see it the other way around sometimes.

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42 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Mendoza almost went to Georgia instead of Indiana, but for a phone call that didn't go through...

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/fernando-mendoza-says-his-call-to-commit-to-georgia-didnt-go-through/

Didn't they have Stockton at QB as a Soph?  I think he would've beaten him out for the position, but it was an open position like it was in Bloomington.  I don't like Kirby.

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