RaceToTheTop Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 2 hours ago, btownqb said: Then there is obviously a reason for Indiana to think he'd get the year to begin with... I wonder what that is. That's a stupid rule lol Personally, I think redshirt rules should be more restrictive, not less. The age of some players is way out of hand and it's another reason that high school kids are having trouble getting recruited. Quote
CSP Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 Just now, RaceToTheTop said: Personally, I think redshirt rules should be more restrictive, not less. The age of some players is way out of hand and it's another reason that high school kids are having trouble getting recruited. well that's covid, more than anything... Goode played 10 games-- 139 mins--- that should count? IUc2016 1 Quote
IUc2016 Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: well that's covid, more than anything... Goode played 10 games-- 139 mins--- that should count? With all the other shenanigans going on? hell no it shouldn’t count. But I am curious as to the thought process on why he did play given the rule CSP and RaceToTheTop 2 Quote
CSP Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 1 minute ago, IUc2016 said: With all the other shenanigans going on? hell no it shouldn’t count. But I am curious as to the thought process on why he did play given the rule I'd prefer to know why IU thinks he could still get one with, allegedly, how the rule is written. IUc2016 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 29 minutes ago, IUc2016 said: But I am curious as to the thought process on why he did play given the rule From Illinois' side? My best guess here would be...there is no loyalty anymore whether it be from the player side or the staff side, nor should there be given how goofy this whole thing has gotten. Why would I go out of my way to protect your redshirt when you're more than likely not spending 5 years in my program? It sounds bad, but I just don't think coaches can afford to worry about those things anymore, so they might as well throw a young kid in the fire when they get the chance. Kick the can down the road and let that be another program's issue. That's my take, anyway. IUc2016, DChoosier, Schreckbagger and 1 other 4 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 8 hours ago, Hovadipo said: From Illinois' side? My best guess here would be...there is no loyalty anymore whether it be from the player side or the staff side, nor should there be given how goofy this whole thing has gotten. Why would I go out of my way to protect your redshirt when you're more than likely not spending 5 years in my program? It sounds bad, but I just don't think coaches can afford to worry about those things anymore, so they might as well throw a young kid in the fire when they get the chance. Kick the can down the road and let that be another program's issue. That's my take, anyway. And all the more reason why some rules and regs have to be brought in to address this wild west that is today’s portal / NIL Quote
go iu bb Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/woodson-says-illinois-transfer-luke-goode-has-shown-he-can-make-shots-this-summer/ Making shots in the summer hasn't been an issue, it's been making them during games which has. IU has had plenty of off-season snipers the past few years who couldn't make them when they counted. That said, he's been able to make them during games in the past so he should be able to at IU as well. The bigger question is will the volume be enough to really matter? Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 On 4/30/2024 at 12:46 PM, IUc2016 said: With all the other shenanigans going on? hell no it shouldn’t count. But I am curious as to the thought process on why he did play given the rule Bingo. Sounds like Underwood wasn't looking out for his player. He didn't play a game until February 11th. Redshirt rule is very clear that a player can only receive a redshirt if they play less than 30% of the games, are actively rehabilitating, AND none of the games are in the second half of the year. The fact that he played 10 games became irrelevant since they were all in the second half of the season -- the moment he stepped on the court February 11th, his redshirt was void even if that was the only game he played in. go iu bb 1 Quote
AH1971 Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Bingo. Sounds like Underwood wasn't looking out for his player. He didn't play a game until February 11th. Redshirt rule is very clear that a player can only receive a redshirt if they play less than 30% of the games, are actively rehabilitating, AND none of the games are in the second half of the year. The fact that he played 10 games became irrelevant since they were all in the second half of the season -- the moment he stepped on the court February 11th, his redshirt was void even if that was the only game he played in. With all the waivers the NCAA has handed out the last 5-6 years, I wouldn't be surprised if he got one if he actively pursued it. cybergates 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, AH1971 said: With all the waivers the NCAA has handed out the last 5-6 years, I wouldn't be surprised if he got one if he actively pursued it. There hasn't been a single waiver handed out for a guy playing multiple games in the second half of the season. mamasa, cybergates and Demo 2 1 Quote
go iu bb Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 17 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said: There hasn't been a single waiver handed out for a guy playing multiple games in the second half of the season. This is one of the few things the NCAA has actually been consistent with. I'm pretty sure they've already rejected a few of these this offseason and no reason to think anything will change on their stance before next offseason. cybergates 1 Quote
IUFAN1976 Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Nice interview with Luke Goode! I like him, reminds of the way Miller Kopp talked. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/watch-new-iu-forward-luke-goode-talks-early-days-in-bloomington-outlook-for-hoosiers/ Stuhoo 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Yeah this thing is an absolute must watch watch; Luke is funny as hell, uninhibited, and most importantly at about the halfway point of the interview gives some insight as to what he’s seen from the roster so far. Key takeaways? Myles Rice is special. Not kinda special… really really really special. Gabe Cupps is taking a big leap and is turning into a knockdown 3 point shooter. Luke Goode says he knows Woody gets a lot of hate, but it’s bullshirt; Woody is an awesome coach who is great to play for. Hoosier DaDa, Demo, Scotty R and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 Yeah this thing is an absolute must watch watch; Luke is funny as hell, uninhibited, and most importantly at about the halfway point of the interview gives some insight as to what he’s seen from the roster so far. Key takeaways? Myles Rice is special. Not kinda special… really really really special. Gabe Cupps is taking a big leap and is turning into a knockdown 3 point shooter. Luke Goode says he knows Woody gets a lot of hate, but it’s bullshirt; Woody is an awesome coach who is great to play for. [/url] Great interview for sure. Homestead product gonna make Ft Wayne proud. I think one thing our teams have lacked that doesn’t get talked about a lot is IQ. And not just basketball IQ. The 2012/13 team had it. This team has some of it. It makes a difference within a game, all of the time. Love hearing about Rice. Ballo/Reneau are going to be tough. Mgbako could be great. I mean, on paper, just a crazy roster. About Woodson. He opens up with a 7am practice today and Woody still being in New York. He does compliment him at the end but it’s nuanced about relationships and players liking playing for him. I and everyone wants to see on court coaching and winning but at least the players like him. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Stuhoo, fwgreenway, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Great interview for sure. Homestead product gonna make Ft Wayne proud. I think one thing our teams have lacked that doesn’t get talked about a lot is IQ. And not just basketball IQ. The 2012/13 team had it. This team has some of it. It makes a difference within a game, all of the time. Love hearing about Rice. Ballo/Reneau are going to be tough. Mgbako could be great. I mean, on paper, just a crazy roster. About Woodson. He opens up with a 7am practice today and Woody still being in New York. He does compliment him at the end but it’s nuanced about relationships and players liking playing for him. I and everyone wants to see on court coaching and winning but at least the players like him. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app 100% spot on. Also interesting that Goode gave big props to an Illinois assistant coach but didn’t mention Underwood. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Demo Posted June 28, 2024 Author Posted June 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Yeah this thing is an absolute must watch watch; Luke is funny as hell, uninhibited, and most importantly at about the halfway point of the interview gives some insight as to what he’s seen from the roster so far. Key takeaways? Myles Rice is special. Not kinda special… really really really special. Gabe Cupps is taking a big leap and is turning into a knockdown 3 point shooter. Luke Goode says he knows Woody gets a lot of hate, but it’s bullshirt; Woody is an awesome coach who is great to play for. Very strong. Great kid and his optimism is obviously completely genuine. Side note: Their recruiting theory that “Gabe Cupps is that special at the bar scene in Bloomington” made me laugh out loud. ALASKA HOOSIER and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
IUFAN1976 Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Great interview for sure. Homestead product gonna make Ft Wayne proud. I think one thing our teams have lacked that doesn’t get talked about a lot is IQ. And not just basketball IQ. The 2012/13 team had it. This team has some of it. It makes a difference within a game, all of the time. Love hearing about Rice. Ballo/Reneau are going to be tough. Mgbako could be great. I mean, on paper, just a crazy roster. About Woodson. He opens up with a 7am practice today and Woody still being in New York. He does compliment him at the end but it’s nuanced about relationships and players liking playing for him. I and everyone wants to see on court coaching and winning but at least the players like him. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Most player coaches do!!!! Player coaches lack structure, discipline, planning and accountability. David Bell for the Reds is a players manager and he sucks in the things I mentioned. Players love player managers/coaches because they let them do what they want WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 23 minutes ago, Demo said: Very strong. Great kid and his optimism is obviously completely genuine. Side note: Their recruiting theory that “Gabe Cupps is that special at the bar scene in Bloomington” made me laugh out loud. It was pretty funny. The podcasters were trying to troll Cupps by pretending he’s the biggest stud on campus. And then Goode responds that they don’t understand; Cupps really IS the best liked guy on campus, he’s in the gym every morning at 6:00 am, and Cupps and Goode have dinner together three times a week. Do NOT DARE to underestimate the omnipotence of Gabe Cupps. Those podcasters truly looked embarrassed when Goode was gushing about Cupps. Demo, WayneFleekHoosier and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
Demo Posted June 28, 2024 Author Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: It was pretty funny. The podcasters were trying to troll Cupps by pretending he’s the biggest stud on campus. And then Goode responds that they don’t understand; Cupps really IS the best liked guy on campus, he’s in the gym every morning at 6:00 am, and Cupps and Goode have dinner together three times a week. Do NOT DARE to underestimate the omnipotence of Gabe Cupps. Somewhere down the road that kid is gonna have a monster coaching career. Everything about him just screams it. Class of '66 Old Fart, WayneFleekHoosier and Stuhoo 3 Quote
fwgreenway Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Homestead product gonna make Ft Wayne proud. ^^^^^^^This is just spot on and he is going to be a tremendous one year leader for IU. ALASKA HOOSIER, Class of '66 Old Fart, J34 and 1 other 4 Quote
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