Transfer Portal w IU Interest

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19 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I would imagine that Cupps fits in as either:

1. A young player that improves a ton and becomes more dynamic, and therein gets a key rotational role, or
2. A ten or less mpg player that doesn't make many mistakes but doesn't impact the game.

He was a freshman thrown into a disjointed style of play.  He has the good  basketball IQ and he plays hard.  I'm happy he is staying.  I only see an up side with him.

[ib4iu]

29 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I don't believe that, at all. 

Take of the rose colored glasses. You think a kid right now in the northern half of the state that is anywhere between 7-17 has dreamt of playing at IU. Thats insane with the last 9 years we’ve had and the successes of Purdue and even Butler. Unless they’re from an IU household. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Of course. But I just think the number of kids who "dream of wearing the candy stripes" (your words not mine) doesn't jive with reality. 

I didn't say it was the only dream. I said "AT ONE POINT".... 

You won't convince me every basketball-playing kid in the state, AT ONE POINT, hasn't put themselves in our candy stripes getting ready to play in Assembly Hall. It's different there whether people want to admit it or not. 

Bilas, Gus Johnson, and every coach+player that comes here and plays says it. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

Take of the rose colored glasses. You think a kid right now in the northern half of the state that is anywhere between 7-17 has dreamt of playing at IU. Thats insane with the last 9 years we’ve had and the successes of Purdue and even Butler. Unless they’re from an IU household. 

At one point, which was the premise of the statement, yeah I do think that.  

 

If we were as good as Purdue currently, and Purdue was as bad as us currently.... 

We don't get TJD, Romeo, and we aren't in the running for Mullins and Sisley AT ALL. We aren't the same, Purdue is currently renting the state because of our incompetence. 

[JF87]

24 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I would imagine that Cupps fits in as either:

1. A young player that improves a ton and becomes more dynamic, and therein gets a key rotational role, or
2. A ten or less mpg player that doesn't make many mistakes but doesn't impact the game.

I see Cupps as a Brad Davison type when he is a Junior and Senior.  He'll be that pesky player that opposing teams don't like.  Cupps may never be a big scorer but will hit enough threes to keep teams honest. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

31 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Alright, well my BIG ten rivaled father steered me wrong and thus you guys to a degree. Apologies.  

 

sidenote- I personally don't know where Leal and Cupps fit in the rotation if we are looking to win big.  We need Woody to get 2 starter quality guards imo then you have our returning 4 guards.  Interesting....

Leal starting = Big Ten Championship

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48 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I would imagine that Cupps fits in as either:

1. A young player that improves a ton and becomes more dynamic, and therein gets a key rotational role, or
2. A ten or less mpg player that doesn't make many mistakes but doesn't impact the game.

I think this is fair. If he still gets up at the crack of dawn to get an individual workout in he is likely to improve. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

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[IUFAN1976]

52 minutes ago, btownqb said:

At one point, which was the premise of the statement, yeah I do think that.  

 

If we were as good as Purdue currently, and Purdue was as bad as us currently.... 

We don't get TJD, Romeo, and we aren't in the running for Mullins and Sisley AT ALL. We aren't the same, Purdue is currently renting the state because of our incompetence. 

And if Turdue makes it to the FF4 and then win it all, they will own the state because of our incompetence 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

And if Turdue makes it to the FF4 and then win it all, they will own the state because of our incompetence 

Maybe? 

[CSP]

10 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Sincere question, what am I missing about Carlyle from Stanford? Several comments along the lines of he "improves IU immediately", but looks very pedestrian to me. Not a great 3pt shooter for certain.

what looks pedestrian? 

[HoosierHuddle]

19 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Sincere question, what am I missing about Carlyle from Stanford? Several comments along the lines of he "improves IU immediately", but looks very pedestrian to me. Not a great 3pt shooter for certain.

Carlyle is not a perfect prospect...he is not an elite three-point shooter (although, 32% on decent volume for a true freshman is not dreadful) and he lacks explosiveness. However, I do think he has multiple things that are appealing:

1. Production as a true freshman at a major conference program

2. 13 double-digit scoring games against conference competition, including five of 16 points or more

3. Excellent FT shooter suggesting there should be an expectation of progress as a perimeter shooter

4. Not a bad defender

5. His lack of elite explosiveness or athleticism means there is a real chance he plays 3-4 years in college. If that ends up being the case, he very well could progress into an all-conference guard

He's not my favorite portal prospect but I can easily see a backcourt of...hypothetically...Carlyle plus Conwell starting with Galloway, Leland Walker, Cupps and Newton being quite successful.

[Silat Player]

2 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

His stats: 11.5ppg, 2.7reb, 2.7ast, 22.8% TO rate, 44% FG, 32% 3P

Not awful for a freshman, but doesn't scream "improvement" to me either. Again, not ripping the kid, just unclear what he offers that I missed. Those stats indicate an average shooter at best, that turns the ball over a fair amount. Never watched him though, maybe he oozes potential? 

If he gives up open threes and straight line drives to the basket too, then he's the perfect IU player. Sign him up. LOL

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23 hours ago, JF87 said:

Okay ISP, we need an update.  I believe that you said that Essegian likes IU, but Butler and Notre Dame were more likely.  Is that still the case?  I would assume that he's looking for playing time and a promise of at least a rotational role.  

I tried to get an update today but the response was pretty vague. They said that they think IU and Michigan are the two favorites, but it's all going to depend on what all of the offers are and NIL numbers as well. Not sure if IU or Michigan have reached out at this point.. 

 

Butler and ND (and Creighton) were mentioned last week just because they all like shooters and had previously expressed interest and/or offered. 

[HoosierHoopster]

19 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

And if Turdue makes it to the FF4 and then win it all, they will own the state because of our incompetence 

But they won’t, lol

[CSP]

Just now, Hardwood83 said:

His stats: 11.5ppg, 2.7reb, 2.7ast, 22.8% TO rate, 44% FG, 32% 3P

Not awful for a freshman, but doesn't scream "improvement" to me either. Again, not ripping the kid, just unclear what he offers that I missed. Those stats indicate an average shooter at best, that turns the ball over a fair amount. Never watched him though, maybe he oozes potential? 

He did that to a Top 10 team in the country. 

The stats are just a part of the information. 

[CSP]

Shooting 32% with the volume and taking the types of shots that Carlyle took is different and more impressive than someone like Conner Essigan, who we have deemed "a shooter", shooting 36% his FR year. 

Not every 3 point shot is the same. 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

Ok, thanks. Ware looked less than sterling and he worked out well.  

12p 3r 3a 32% from 3

14p 4r 4a and 35% from 3 as a SO--- that would seem plausible, yes? And that would be excellent numbers, especially for what we've had at PG, recently. 

[SamIam]

2 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I know that Riensk Mast played there the previous year and averaged 13.8 points, 8 rebounds, and 2.4 assists;  played at Nebraska this past season and put up basically the same numbers (12.5 points, 7.5 rebounds, and 3 assists).  So the precedent is there for players transferring from Bradley to the Big Ten without seeing a big drop in numbers.

The MVC as a whole seems to transfer pretty well - Domask averaged 16.7 in the MVC and 16.1 this year. Jones averaged 13.8 in the MVC and 12.1 in the B1G this year. Krikke is the only one I can think of that didn't keep his production, but he was the only option at Valpo anyway, he went from 19 pts/game to 13.8.

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1 hour ago, btownqb said:

At one point, which was the premise of the statement, yeah I do think that.  

 

If we were as good as Purdue currently, and Purdue was as bad as us currently.... 

We don't get TJD, Romeo, and we aren't in the running for Mullins and Sisley AT ALL. We aren't the same, Purdue is currently renting the state because of our incompetence. 

Wait, was Barrel Rick misinforming us yesterday?