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30 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

It should come down to what starting 5 we land in the portal and if he is wiling to come off the bench and work his tail bone off to get better on D.  Put up 500 3's a day to get better because he does have a nice looking stroke.

Definitely. We need a backup PG and a backup post to go along with our starters. But let’s say we land a PG and starting guard who is a combo guard and can handle point duties for 10min a game it makes it easier to keep Dorn and miles. 

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I think Sam is a less athletic, less talented version of the incoming frosh that reclassified to come and play early. He is more advanced physically and played for a lower level mid-major that has developed a handful of productive players for the high major programs. 

We need 1-7 in the rotation next year IMO, to be a conference competitor and resemble a successful do over of year one. We need 2 or three proven players that will produce immediately at a high level. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Shooter said:

If we were to sign Orme - that means either he or Sisley is the starting 4 right? Not really room in the rotation for two backup 4s.

If we are doing this right, we have a rotation of basketball players that collectively have a complete skill set. And we need to have real competition for rotation roles.

That could encompass both Sisley and a player like Orme starting, or not.

Clearly neither would cover the need for imposing physical size nor primary ball-handling, but Sisley would a pretty strong & athletic college three, so if he substantially developed his game before November then he'll have earned a role; and another stretch 4 could also earn a sizable role.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

If we are doing this right, we have a rotation of basketball players that collectively have a complete skill set. And we need to have real competition for rotation roles.

That could encompass both Sisley and a player like Orme starting, or not.

Clearly neither would cover the need for imposing physical size nor primary ball-handling, but Sisley would a pretty strong & athletic college three, so if he substantially developed his game before November then he'll have earned a role; and another stretch 4 could also earn a sizable role.

They are different players but neither offer What you want as a starter on a high major with aspirations of being at the top.  Sisley lacks the shooting.  Orme lacks the defense/physical tools at the top level.  Sisley would be a nice 3 if he shot better. Orme could be a nice 4 if he had more athletic gifts.  Orme feels like a Humrichous type player at his ceiling.  Could work if you have the tools elsewhere to make up for his deficits assuming he translates similar.  Illinois or Michigan are obvious rosters to emulate.  Illinois is tenacious on defense as a group and Humrichous is a small piece that plays a role.   That’s the way I see Orme.  Lots of better 4s out there.  So if we are at disadvantage at the 4 we need to be at advantage in enough other spots to make it work. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Shooter said:

If we were to sign Orme - that means either he or Sisley is the starting 4 right? Not really room in the rotation for two backup 4s.

I think Orme is the starter between the two. Not exactly an exciting start for a team that needs 4-5 starters.

Posted
12 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Bailey 2.0? Sincere question as I know nothing about him. There is a place for a guy like that, it's #8 in the rotation though, not as a starter. 

Bailey did not have an excellent eFG% at Davidson ..although at IU, he did.

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Come on, fans.  Let's talk BIGs!

From AI which can be taken with a grain of salt, of course: 

Based on the 2026 spring transfer landscape, here are potential productive bigs for IU:
  • Kwame Evans Jr. (Oregon - F/C): A former McDonald’s All-American who entered the 2026 portal, providing immediate elite talent and size.
  • Ben Defty (Boston University - F/C): A 7-foot forward, named to the All-Patriot League Second Team and Defensive Team, offering rim protection and size.
  • Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan - F/C): Identified as a top 2025-26 transfer bringing proven production and leadership.
  • Devin Royal (Ohio State - F): A versatile forward mentioned in early Big Ten transfer buzz for 2026, offering scoring inside-out capabilities.    
  •  Seven-footers Chol Machot and Anton Bonke, the top-ranked centers                                                                                                                                                                                   Indiana's recent hire of a new general manager, Ryan Carr, indicates a shift toward a more proactive, scout-driven approach to the portal. 
Posted
5 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Come on, fans.  Let's talk BIGs!

From AI which can be taken with a grain of salt, of course: 

Based on the 2026 spring transfer landscape, here are potential productive bigs for IU:
  • Kwame Evans Jr. (Oregon - F/C): A former McDonald’s All-American who entered the 2026 portal, providing immediate elite talent and size.
  • Ben Defty (Boston University - F/C): A 7-foot forward, named to the All-Patriot League Second Team and Defensive Team, offering rim protection and size.
  • Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan - F/C): Identified as a top 2025-26 transfer bringing proven production and leadership.
  • Devin Royal (Ohio State - F): A versatile forward mentioned in early Big Ten transfer buzz for 2026, offering scoring inside-out capabilities.    
  •  Seven-footers Chol Machot and Anton Bonke, the top-ranked centers                                                                                                                                                                                   Indiana's recent hire of a new general manager, Ryan Carr, indicates a shift toward a more proactive, scout-driven approach to the portal. 

AI must have insider knowledge that Cuban plans to write Yaxel a $50M check to join the good guys next year

:farting_smiley:

Posted
29 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I think Orme is the starter between the two. Not exactly an exciting start for a team that needs 4-5 starters.

There was some discussion a few days ago about the concept of spending a large chunk of our budget on a few stars, and filling the other spots cheaply.

IF we went that route - this is how you would do it. Sisley and Orme at the 4. Dorn + the freshmen at the 3. Spend big $$$ on a Bidunga level big, and two stud guards.

(I am not necessarily saying we should do this, just food for thought)

Posted
43 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They are different players but neither offer What you want as a starter on a high major with aspirations of being at the top.  Sisley lacks the shooting.  Orme lacks the defense/physical tools at the top level.  Sisley would be a nice 3 if he shot better. Orme could be a nice 4 if he had more athletic gifts.  Orme feels like a Humrichous type player at his ceiling.  Could work if you have the tools elsewhere to make up for his deficits assuming he translates similar.  Illinois or Michigan are obvious rosters to emulate.  Illinois is tenacious on defense as a group and Humrichous is a small piece that plays a role.   That’s the way I see Orme.  Lots of better 4s out there.  So if we are at disadvantage at the 4 we need to be at advantage in enough other spots to make it work. 

Yea, I look at Illinois and see Jake Davis and Humrichous each getting 20 mpg on a title contender. Just depends on what you have around them. Illinois is huge and has a couple of stud playmakers, so it works

Posted
38 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Come on, fans.  Let's talk BIGs!

From AI which can be taken with a grain of salt, of course: 

Based on the 2026 spring transfer landscape, here are potential productive bigs for IU:
  • Kwame Evans Jr. (Oregon - F/C): A former McDonald’s All-American who entered the 2026 portal, providing immediate elite talent and size.
  • Ben Defty (Boston University - F/C): A 7-foot forward, named to the All-Patriot League Second Team and Defensive Team, offering rim protection and size.
  • Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan - F/C): Identified as a top 2025-26 transfer bringing proven production and leadership.
  • Devin Royal (Ohio State - F): A versatile forward mentioned in early Big Ten transfer buzz for 2026, offering scoring inside-out capabilities.    
  •  Seven-footers Chol Machot and Anton Bonke, the top-ranked centers                                                                                                                                                                                   Indiana's recent hire of a new general manager, Ryan Carr, indicates a shift toward a more proactive, scout-driven approach to the portal. 

Non-generative AI is wonderful.

Generative AI kind sux Dave.

Posted
1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

I think Orme is the starter between the two. Not exactly an exciting start for a team that needs 4-5 starters.

Well, there are rumors, but the portal doesn't open for another 10 days, so we got guys saying they're entering, but nobody is in the portal yet... I trust Carr and DeVries to be busy doing the work... Orme and everybody else that's "leaning" or "locked" to Indiana is just BS lip service at this point... so, until that time, "lighten up, Francis".

Posted
1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They are different players but neither offer What you want as a starter on a high major with aspirations of being at the top.  Sisley lacks the shooting.  Orme lacks the defense/physical tools at the top level.  Sisley would be a nice 3 if he shot better. Orme could be a nice 4 if he had more athletic gifts.  Orme feels like a Humrichous type player at his ceiling.  Could work if you have the tools elsewhere to make up for his deficits assuming he translates similar.  Illinois or Michigan are obvious rosters to emulate.  Illinois is tenacious on defense as a group and Humrichous is a small piece that plays a role.   That’s the way I see Orme.  Lots of better 4s out there.  So if we are at disadvantage at the 4 we need to be at advantage in enough other spots to make it work. 

Why do you have to make things make sense?! LOL

Posted
51 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Come on, fans.  Let's talk BIGs!

From AI which can be taken with a grain of salt, of course: 

Based on the 2026 spring transfer landscape, here are potential productive bigs for IU:
  • Kwame Evans Jr. (Oregon - F/C): A former McDonald’s All-American who entered the 2026 portal, providing immediate elite talent and size.
  • Ben Defty (Boston University - F/C): A 7-foot forward, named to the All-Patriot League Second Team and Defensive Team, offering rim protection and size.
  • Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan - F/C): Identified as a top 2025-26 transfer bringing proven production and leadership.
  • Devin Royal (Ohio State - F): A versatile forward mentioned in early Big Ten transfer buzz for 2026, offering scoring inside-out capabilities.    
  •  Seven-footers Chol Machot and Anton Bonke, the top-ranked centers                                                                                                                                                                                   Indiana's recent hire of a new general manager, Ryan Carr, indicates a shift toward a more proactive, scout-driven approach to the portal. 

Dave...what is your AI smoking?  Does it share?

Posted
33 minutes ago, Shooter said:

There was some discussion a few days ago about the concept of spending a large chunk of our budget on a few stars, and filling the other spots cheaply.

IF we went that route - this is how you would do it. Sisley and Orme at the 4. Dorn + the freshmen at the 3. Spend big $$$ on a Bidunga level big, and two stud guards.

(I am not necessarily saying we should do this, just food for thought)

Depending on the guards, this would be serviceable!

Posted
8 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Orme will be a Hoosier. Just my feeling nothing else

Welcome back Mr. Bond!  Haven't seen you all BB season.  Hopefully all is well and you didn't get thrown out with all the stanky Woody Rugs!

Posted
1 hour ago, Shooter said:

There was some discussion a few days ago about the concept of spending a large chunk of our budget on a few stars, and filling the other spots cheaply.

IF we went that route - this is how you would do it. Sisley and Orme at the 4. Dorn + the freshmen at the 3. Spend big $$$ on a Bidunga level big, and two stud guards.

(I am not necessarily saying we should do this, just food for thought)

The guys you spend less on still have to be able to play at this level

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