Transfer Portal w IU Interest

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41 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

On3 reports we're making a run at Cornell guard Jake Fiegen entered the transfer portal last week and has emerged as one of the top players to enter to this point. The 6-foot-4 grad transfer averaged 17.1 points and 5.1 rebounds per game this past season, while shooting over 41% from three. He will have one year of eligibility remaining.   Others mentioned are 'Nova, O$U, Wake and Vandy.

Can see that one. Catch and shoot guy along the lines of Isaac McNeeley at UVA. If they’re gonna go hard after a more dynamic lead guard, and I can’t imagine they won’t, pairing them with a kid like this who you can’t leave would make some sense. 

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I need thoughts from those around here who know Notre Dame.
We’ve talked a fair bit about Haralson already, and I think assuming you’re comfortable with the kid he’s an easy yes if he’s available and you just figure out the fit. Also think he’d be really expensive and he’d have a huge list. But I’m really curious about 2 other kids there: 1) Really intrigued by the idea of Burton. He hits 1 of my least favorite archetypes, the small ball dominant scoring guard. But is that what he actually is or is that just kind of what they needed from him and what Shrews asked of him? If he can comfortably fit in a system the kid’s played a bunch and gotten a lot done against great competition. That, and coming off the ankle his market might be slightly depressed and there could be a bit of a value proposition there. 2) How did Koehler look last year? When his name came up some with IU in HS didn’t love it because that frame didn’t look like it would hold up in the B1G. But the athleticism and the shooting looked like they’d play. Any chance he gained 20-25lbs? 

[Uspshoosier]

10 minutes ago, Demo said:

need thoughts from those around here who know Notre Dame.

Burton is the small ball dominant scoring guard you do not like.   That’s what he was in high school as well.   Won Mr Basketball his senior year.   Koehler had some up and downs throughout the year.   I watched him a couple times and thought he has potential and then some times where he looked lost.   Definitely added some pounds but probably could add more.    Sisley was committed so don’t think IU ever looked his way in high school 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

On3 reports we're making a run at Cornell guard Jake Fiegen entered the transfer portal last week and has emerged as one of the top players to enter to this point. The 6-foot-4 grad transfer averaged 17.1 points and 5.1 rebounds per game this past season, while shooting over 41% from three. He will have one year of eligibility remaining.   Others mentioned are 'Nova, O$U, Wake and Vandy.

I’ll need to wait to see full picture and it’s super duper early, but if this is a guy you project to start you are lowering your ceiling immediately. 
 

Positves-6’3-6’4.  41% on 5.5 attempts. 
 

Negatives-on a scale of 10 he’s a 3 or 4 on athleticism. That has impact on both sides of the court. 

77% from charity which for an atheletic plus size guy you take that everyday. But from a guy who is your shooter you want that number higher.  Played for a very mediocre Colgate in a very mediocre conference.  Athleticism on defense will impact him.  1 year of eligibility.  
 

again, full team build vision is necessary and I like shooters, but you are giving up a fair amount. 
 

Hearing we will lose all but 2 or 3 guys. So portal could be huge at 7 or 8. 
 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’ll need to wait to see full picture and it’s super duper early, but if this is a guy you project to start you are lowering your ceiling immediately. 
 

Positves-6’3-6’4.  41% on 5.5 attempts. 
 

Negatives-on a scale of 10 he’s a 3 or 4 on athleticism. That has impact on both sides of the court. 

77% from charity which for an atheletic plus size guy you take that everyday. But from a guy who is your shooter you want that number higher.  Played for a very mediocre Colgate in a very mediocre conference.  Athleticism on defense will impact him.  1 year of eligibility.  
 

again, full team build vision is necessary and I like shooters, but you are giving up a fair amount. 
 

Hearing we will lose all but 2 or 3 guys. So portal could be huge at 7 or 8. 
 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

Agree.

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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Colby Garland, 6’1” pg from San Jose St is in the portal.

Played for Devries at Drake; 3rd team Mountain West last year. Kinda stocky lefty. Excellent numbers last season- rebounds well and gets to the FT line a ton, so I assume he’s a physical player.

Very well could be a thing—wouldn’t think he’d be an especially expensive pickup.

The logic is there, but I’m curious about 2 things, 1) Is he a B1G player or was he a compiler on a bad team? The lines look pretty good but the team was bad. He had a really nice game against Mich St. 2) Why, from the little we know, did DDV appear to make no effort to bring him to either WVU or here IUBB last year? Did that relationship not work? No idea. 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Demo said:

The logic is there, but I’m curious about 2 things, 1) Is he a B1G player or was he a compiler on a bad team? The lines look pretty good but the team was bad. He had a really nice game against Mich St. 2) Why, from the little we know, did DDV appear to make no effort to bring him to either WVU or here IUBB last year? Did that relationship not work? No idea. 

San Jose St was terrible. Garland had his first really good season on that terrible team.

Anyway, Devries and Norton should know his makeup well.

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

Gabe Cupps is available?!!?

hmmmmmm

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

39 minutes ago, Demo said:

Why, from the little we know, did DDV appear to make no effort to bring him to either WVU or here IUBB last year? Did that relationship not work? No idea. 

This!

[Asha’man]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’ll need to wait to see full picture and it’s super duper early, but if this is a guy you project to start you are lowering your ceiling immediately. 
 

Positves-6’3-6’4.  41% on 5.5 attempts. 
 

Negatives-on a scale of 10 he’s a 3 or 4 on athleticism. That has impact on both sides of the court. 

77% from charity which for an atheletic plus size guy you take that everyday. But from a guy who is your shooter you want that number higher.  Played for a very mediocre Colgate in a very mediocre conference.  Athleticism on defense will impact him.  1 year of eligibility.  
 

again, full team build vision is necessary and I like shooters, but you are giving up a fair amount. 
 

Hearing we will lose all but 2 or 3 guys. So portal could be huge at 7 or 8. 
 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

I wonder if they bring this guy in and spend bigger at PG and C. Maybe splash the cash for Muurinen as a PF. Then have more playing time for Moody. I’m not expecting even a 2nd weekend roster next year. Just make the tourney and build. So build a team where the freshmen can contribute? 

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3 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

I wonder if they bring this guy in and spend bigger at PG and C. Maybe splash the cash for Muurinen as a PF. Then have more playing time for Moody. I’m not expecting even a 2nd weekend roster next year. Just make the tourney and build. So build a team where the freshmen can contribute? 

Muurinen would be wild. Would be the most physically gifted dude on this campus since Isiah but is also pretty clearly kind of nuts. I don’t care if it worked. I just want to watch. 

[BA47591]

I'm hoping to see multiple high level talents represented by the same agent. It well tell me Mr. Carr is connected and we have the resources. What we know won't work is a team full of mid to low level d1 athletes with impressive numbers.  

[IUCrazy2]

4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’ll need to wait to see full picture and it’s super duper early, but if this is a guy you project to start you are lowering your ceiling immediately. 
 

Positves-6’3-6’4.  41% on 5.5 attempts. 
 

Negatives-on a scale of 10 he’s a 3 or 4 on athleticism. That has impact on both sides of the court. 

77% from charity which for an atheletic plus size guy you take that everyday. But from a guy who is your shooter you want that number higher.  Played for a very mediocre Colgate in a very mediocre conference.  Athleticism on defense will impact him.  1 year of eligibility.  
 

again, full team build vision is necessary and I like shooters, but you are giving up a fair amount. 
 

Hearing we will lose all but 2 or 3 guys. So portal could be huge at 7 or 8. 
 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

 

4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’ll need to wait to see full picture and it’s super duper early, but if this is a guy you project to start you are lowering your ceiling immediately. 
 

Positves-6’3-6’4.  41% on 5.5 attempts. 
 

Negatives-on a scale of 10 he’s a 3 or 4 on athleticism. That has impact on both sides of the court. 

77% from charity which for an atheletic plus size guy you take that everyday. But from a guy who is your shooter you want that number higher.  Played for a very mediocre Colgate in a very mediocre conference.  Athleticism on defense will impact him.  1 year of eligibility.  
 

again, full team build vision is necessary and I like shooters, but you are giving up a fair amount. 
 

Hearing we will lose all but 2 or 3 guys. So portal could be huge at 7 or 8. 
 

Id take him over Cupps, I guess in a Cupps like role. 

Any idea who the 2 or 3 that are likely to stay?

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

 

Any idea who the 2 or 3 that are likely to stay?

Sisley, Dorn and International Big 

[IUCrazy2]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Sisley, Dorn and International Big 

Lol, we had an international big on the team? 

[JF87]

3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Lol, we had an international big on the team? 

Yes, but he was in witness protection. 

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Lol, we had an international big on the team? 

Yeah.   Cost next to nothing in NIL and knew it was a developmental project.  Still would have 4 years of eligibility and still cost next to nothing in NIL 

[IUHoosier5]

So the rumor Sisley was leaving because CDD told him he couldn’t play in the B1G was merely that… a rumor. 

[IUCrazy2]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah.   Cost next to nothing in NIL and knew it was a developmental project.  Still would have 4 years of eligibility and still cost next to nothing in NIL 

Gotcha, I totally missed him on the roster this year.  So sounds like we need 7 guys.  We are going to have to moneyball part of the roster then.  I would hope we try and grab a few underclassmen who look like they could develop and we don't go all in with a bunch of juniors and seniors again.

[Asha’man]

1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Gotcha, I totally missed him on the roster this year.  So sounds like we need 7 guys.  We are going to have to moneyball part of the roster then.  I would hope we try and grab a few underclassmen who look like they could develop and we don't go all in with a bunch of juniors and seniors again.

I’d be tempted to overspend a little on the starting 5 and then roll with the freshmen and the 3 that we are thinking stay as the bench. Won’t be a deep team but the freshmen will get valuable experience and sets up well for year 3, while having the best possible starting 5 this coming year.