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28 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

To this point, no one that fits Goode's profile -- playing ten games in the second half of a season -- has been granted a redshirt.  Saying his chances are 'very high' is a false narrative.  Marcus Domask had a stronger case that Goode did and hired lawyers as well.  Didn't get an extra year.

It's granted all the time in football.  The time you play your 4 games does not matter.  The time you play the 10 will not matter to the court.  

Posted
34 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

To this point, no one that fits Goode's profile -- playing ten games in the second half of a season -- has been granted a redshirt.  Saying his chances are 'very high' is a false narrative.  Marcus Domask had a stronger case that Goode did and hired lawyers as well.  Didn't get an extra year.

No he didn't lol. Marcus Domask had played 4 full years of college basketball and tried to get a 6th year. Luke Goode has played 3 and 1/3 seasons. 

Posted
Just now, AH1971 said:

No he didn't lol. Marcus Domask had played 4 full years of college basketball and tried to get a 6th year. Luke Goode has played 3 and 1/3 seasons. 

20-21 didn’t count for anyone.

name me one player who played 10 games in February and March who received a redshirt.

Posted
8 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

It's granted all the time in football.  The time you play your 4 games does not matter.  The time you play the 10 will not matter to the court.  

Again, cite any example of a basketball player who played 10 games in February and March who has won his appeal.   I would love for Goode to be the first but saying he has a good chance to do something no one else has done is a false narrative.

Posted
2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

20-21 didn’t count for anyone.

name me one player who played 10 games in February and March who received a redshirt.

He still played 4 full seasons and eclipsed the 30% threshold in the one season he didn't play. I don't know names of specific players, maybe this will be further known as the Luke Goode rule once he's granted a medical waiver. 

Posted
1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Did Domask actually sue? I really think the NCAA would lose if it went to court.

Edit: he also played 10 out of 26 games. I'm not sure how that is a stronger case. Luke is under the 30% threshold just at the wrong time of year. Domask was over that threshold. So they would be making different arguments.

The fact it is enforced differently across sports is going to hurt the NCAA's case big time.

Posted
2 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Again, cite any example of a basketball player who played 10 games in February and March who has won his appeal.   I would love for Goode to be the first but saying he has a good chance to do something no one else has done is a false narrative.

Name one that's went go court.   The court isn't going to side with them on this and Goode plans to go to court not just threaten with a lawyer. The NCAA has taken how many Ls the last two years?

Posted
3 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

To this point, no one that fits Goode's profile -- playing ten games in the second half of a season -- has been granted a redshirt.  Saying his chances are 'very high' is a false narrative.  Marcus Domask had a stronger case that Goode did and hired lawyers as well.  Didn't get an extra year.

Marcus did not have a stronger case.  He eclipsed 30 percent in that season. Luke did not. 

Posted
44 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

Marcus did not have a stronger case.  He eclipsed 30 percent in that season. Luke did not. 

Domask’s games were in the first half of the year which is a criteria for the waiver.

Posted
29 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Domask’s games were in the first half of the year which is a criteria for the waiver.

Another criterion is that the number of games played must be 30% or less. He played 10 of 26 games which is 38%. 

The issue with Goode is when the games were played since he played 10 of 33 (30%). The argument is that it is arbitrary and unfair to allow someone who plays 10 games at the beginning of the season to get another year while someone who plays the games after the first 1/2 of the season to not get a waiver. That in and of itself would be hard to defend in court but it looks untenable when football is taken into account where they can play 4 games at any time and maintain eligibility.

I think Goode would have a very winnable case if it goes to court. I hope he does. I've always thought it was a stupid rule. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

Posted
13 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Another criterion is that the number of games played must be 30% or less. He played 10 of 26 games which is 38%. 

The issue with Goode is when the games were played since he played 10 of 33 (30%). The argument is that it is arbitrary and unfair to allow someone who plays 10 games at the beginning of the season to get another year while someone who plays the games after the first 1/2 of the season to not get a waiver. That in and of itself would be hard to defend in court but it looks untenable when football is taken into account where they can play 4 games at any time and maintain eligibility.

I think Goode would have a very winnable case in it goes to court. I hope he does. I've always thought it was a stupid rule. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

To add on to my previous post: Another thing to keep in mind is that when these types of cases go to court, the athletes are actually arguing that the NCAA is hurting their livelihood by denying them eligibility in this way. So the NCAA is unfairly hurting their income with arbitrary and inconsistent rules like this. It doesn't go over well. For reference, see: the NCAA's recent court history

Posted
47 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

lol, he definitely reads this board.

Agreeing with him feels kind of gross. Or maybe I should say him agreeing with me. :)

I'd wager we've seen more than one iteration of Tyme on this board. Same goes for SDB. Those two love to interject themselves into every IUBB discussion and behave as if they are the preeminent authority on Indiana basketball. Even though both have gotten many things wrong in the past and just delete the old tweets and pretend it didn't happen. lol

Posted
3 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

I'd wager we've seen more than one iteration of Tyme on this board. Same goes for SDB. Those two love to interject themselves into every IUBB discussion and behave as if they are the preeminent authority on Indiana basketball. Even though both have gotten many things wrong in the past and just delete the old tweets and pretend it didn't happen. lol

 

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