Shooter Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said: Exactly, instead of a freaking coach who just wants to recruit the highest ranked players by throwing money at them like Woodson has, recruit players to your system, culture and identity you want to play, even role players because every good teams have role players and they accept their roles Yep. After I typed that about Painter, I realized it is equally true for Curt Cignetti.
IUFAN1976 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 1 minute ago, VFury said: Look, we could either cling to the past and try desperately to bring back something that hasn't existed for a generation, or look to the future and put together the best possible program in the modern era. This thought process is why IU has sucked the better part of 25 years. No it isn’t, we’ve gotten away from it during the Mike Davis era. But it exactly works for Turdue, don’t you agree? AZ Hoosier and Scotty R 2
BleedCubbieBlue Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Our own worst enemy Damn. The first rule that all of the drug dealers Sampson recruited taught me is to not get high off your own supply. You may want to take that advice. AZ Hoosier, Home Jersey, Pagoda and 1 other 4
Home Jersey Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Chris007 said: Seems a little weird in here today. We are reaching jet speed levels of posting because of the anticipation for this a$$ whooping tonight theriverpilot, Pagoda, OliviaPope40 and 3 others 2 4
IUFAN1976 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Shooter said: Yep. After I typed that about Painter, I realized it is equally true for Curt Cignetti. Exactly, it’s not about the past, it’s about your system and how you want your players to play.
go iu bb Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Nothing to do with Mike Woodson. Than maybe it shouldn't be in the Woodson thread. Pagoda and cybergates 2
AH1971 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 Just now, go iu bb said: Than maybe it shouldn't be in the Woodson thread. Don’t read it and then certainly don’t respond to it.
IUFAN1976 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said: Agreed. I, too, was fortunate enough to witness Bob Knight's glory years in the early '70s through the mid '90s...through the years, Knight and Keady battled each other, but both taught the game, developed young boys into men who understood a lot about doing your job, doing it the right way and just flat working hard. Sadly, the farm school up north has continued that work in the person of Matt Painter, and Indiana has floundered with clowns and incompetence. It's pretty depressing, actually, and even more so that the clown leading the program today was a product of Knight's mentoring. There’s a few of us on the same page, but others say we are living in the past but Turdue isn’t past, it’s the present. AZ Hoosier 1
Mopladysman Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 In other news.. we did Purdue a favor by beating their @$$ so they could get a new coach. Time for them to return the favor. fire Mike Woodson thebigweave 1
Chris007 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: We are reaching jet speed levels of posting because of the anticipation for this a$$ whooping tonight Brad Brownell Will Wade and a bunch of others Home Jersey, thebigweave, BleedCubbieBlue and 1 other 1 3
Scotty R Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, VFury said: Look, we could either cling to the past and try desperately to bring back something that hasn't existed for a generation, or look to the future and put together the best possible program in the modern era. This thought process is why IU has sucked the better part of 25 years. Why we sucked is that we went away from what made IU great. A culture and foundation of a program built on hard work, toughness and playing as a team. We went away from our recruiting strategies and tried to go the route of getting the highest rated players as possible. It use to be about evaluating and developing players and now it is about paying the most money for entitled players. It is time to go back to what made IU great and that is get a hard nosed coach who will instill a culture built around the team and not individuals. It is time to go back to recruiting our hot bed area and getting the very best of Indiana high school players then going out from Indiana. It is time to go back to having the whole being greater than it's parts and build a program and not a team. Home Jersey, AZ Hoosier, FightFor6 and 3 others 5 1
VFury Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said: There’s a few of us on the same page, but others say we are living in the past but Turdue isn’t past, it’s the present. Matt Painter is a very forward thinking coach, the fact he's an alum is just a happy coincidence. Also, he coached 12 years before advancing past the sweet 16 and completely bottomed out for 2 years. we would have fired him long before he became as successful as he has been.
Scotty R Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 12 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Our own worst enemy I have figured out that you are IndianaResident16 over on HSN cybergates, Artie86 and thebigweave 2 1
Golfman25 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 2 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said: Will Wade's teams have finished in the top 25 exactly ONCE. There is a reason that Chris Beard's transgressions only dropped him a lower power 5 team and Will Wade's dropped him into a low major. The funny thing that AH thinks the world of Will Wade but guess who didn't come calling for Will Wade when their spots opened up last off-season? Drake didn't. St.Louis didn't. Wade sure as heck isn't going to have his next stop be a high major. I make no comment regarding Beard or Wade. I just wouldn't disqualify someone who violated some BS NCAA rule 10 years ago that no longer exists. They would still have to fit the university, have a winning basketball record, etc.
go iu bb Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Don’t read it and then certainly don’t respond to it. Or you could just post it in the appropriate thread. I suppose that may be too complicated. cybergates, Banksyrules and Pagoda 3
coonhounds Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 We are reaching jet speed levels of posting because of the anticipation for this a$$ whooping tonight Were reaching jet speeds levels of posting because of ah1971!FIRE WOODSON [emoji91] Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk thebigweave, go iu bb, Home Jersey and 1 other 4
AH1971 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Scotty R said: I have figured out that you are IndianaResident16 over on HSN I don’t know what the means Scotty R 1
Golfman25 Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 2 hours ago, AH1971 said: You can count on one hand the number of schools whose fans expect their team to win at the level IU fans expect. The only issue is that IU is the one school who hasn't done it in 30+ years. What level is that? Asking for a true fan. :) Silat Player 1
Scotty R Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 1 minute ago, AH1971 said: I don’t know what the means I am saying that your user name on HSN in IndianaResident16 since you have the same style of posting Artie86 1
VFury Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 8 minutes ago, Scotty R said: Why we sucked is that we went away from what made IU great. A culture and foundation of a program built on hard work, toughness and playing as a team. We went away from our recruiting strategies and tried to go the route of getting the highest rated players as possible. It use to be about evaluating and developing players and now it is about paying the most money for entitled players. It is time to go back to what made IU great and that is get a hard nosed coach who will instill a culture built around the team and not individuals. It is time to go back to recruiting our hot bed area and getting the very best of Indiana high school players then going out from Indiana. It is time to go back to having the whole being greater than it's parts and build a program and not a team. See this is exactly what I'm talking about. This exact thing won a lot of games in the 70's and 80's. It's meaningless now. You can point to Painter all you want, but he is a very modern coach who isn't who you think he is. He's one of the best offensive minds in the game. To think your just gonna be among the best by simply working hard, going to class, and bounce passing it better than everyone else is delusional and, again, why IU has sucked for 25 years.
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