They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Golfman25 6,808]

2 hours ago, Feathery said:

It’s been heading this way for awhile now if it’s a topic that you’ve followed consistently. Essentially the schools paying is going to end up being revenue sharing through the tv contracts. Which are not going to be tax payer money but commercial is revenues from the athletic departments tv contracts. Which is the revenue that the players are helping make possible. 
 

What I don’t agree with is when I hear people say once there is revenue sharing that there won’t be a need for NIL. I think what will happen is the SEC and Big Ten will have the best base salaries bc their tv deals are bigger than the rest. But then you’ll have Joe Blow used car lot owner in Tuscaloosa providing extra incentives for a player to go to Bama. Sort of like the old under the table, against the NCAA rules, type NIL. 

Yeah, I agree with that.  But I think politically, they might have to "spin-off" the athletic departments, or at least Football/Basketball.  While it is TV money and not taxpayer money, money is fungible.  It's going to be a tough sell for these kids to get paid professional salaries, from a taxpayer funded educational institution.  They'll be the highest paid people associated with the University, except for a few coaches.  Once the tax paying public wakes up, look out.  

As for NIL, that's a court decision and is here to stay.  Student Athletes will always be able to sell their NIL for money to help the local establishments.  The big money slush funds may go away though.  

[schoosier 3,741]

7 hours ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Crean didn't have a cool 6 million to spend.  I think Crean would be pretty good in the NIL era.

Crean coached 6/1000 point scores on one team and couldn’t get to a final four. Did less with more unlike any other.

[Feathery 4,005]

13 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah, I agree with that.  But I think politically, they might have to "spin-off" the athletic departments, or at least Football/Basketball.  While it is TV money and not taxpayer money, money is fungible.  It's going to be a tough sell for these kids to get paid professional salaries, from a taxpayer funded educational institution.  They'll be the highest paid people associated with the University, except for a few coaches.  Once the tax paying public wakes up, look out.  

As for NIL, that's a court decision and is here to stay.  Student Athletes will always be able to sell their NIL for money to help the local establishments.  The big money slush funds may go away though.  

Yeah I can’t see athletes in non revenue sports getting paid. So a spin off will have to happen. Also to get around Title IX. 

[Chris007 62,585]

23 hours ago, IU Prof said:

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/posts/brad-stevens-addresses-rumor-leave-boston-celtics-indiana-hoosiers

I'm little scared because he said the Celtics have to get over the hump

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

Fire Mike Woodson later!

[Herotime 1,172]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I'm little scared because he said the Celtics have to get over the hump

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

[Chris007 62,585]

Just now, Herotime said:

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

Yeah it would for me. You give Brad Stevens 6 mil in the portal and we're in the final four

[Herotime 1,172]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it would for me. You give Brad Stevens 6 mil in the portal and we're in the final four

Yea, I’d retract a fair bit of my criticism as well. I’d have no issue saying I was wrong/whatever. That said, historically, the admin hasn’t earned the kind of trust for the fanbase to just give them the benefit of the doubt on issues like this. 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,770]

19 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

Very weird...you're correct here, but I read your post then immediately had this come up on Twitter:

 

They are in your head and thoughts you need one of these.

[Hovadipo 61,493]

Just now, Hoosier DaDa said:

They are in your head and thoughts you need one of these.

They'll never take me alive.

[JSHoosier 22,213]

15 minutes ago, Herotime said:

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

If Stevens wasn't a 100% certainty, I'd say no it wouldn't. Without that certainty it's just "maybe we can land the white whale this time if we stick with the crappy coach another year".

Sorry, you don't stick with a lousy coach like Woodson in favor of Stevens unless Stevens is a guarantee.

[steubenhoosier 1,889]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

They are in your head and thoughts you need one of these.

"The lunatic is in my head....There's someone in my head, but it's not me."

[Hoosier DaDa 3,770]

14 hours ago, schoosier said:

Crean coached 6/1000 point scores on one team and couldn’t get to a final four. Did less with more unlike any other.

Damn that Syracuse zone and our short guards. 

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

Brad Stevens hasn’t coached a college game in 11 years. Maybe when he is 20 years removed from the college game this fan base will quit viewing him as savior?

[Hornsby 3,870]

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

No because there are no sure thing ever with this. Too many things could change in a year.

 

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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,495]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it would for me. You give Brad Stevens 6 mil in the portal and we're in the final four

It's not as simple as that.  And that (unrealistic expectations) would be a big part of why Stevens doesn't want the job in my opinion.  But I would be optimistic each and every off season.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,495]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It's not as simple as that.  And that (unrealistic expectations) would be a big part of why Stevens doesn't want the job in my opinion.  But I would be optimistic each and every off season.  

our perceived NIL advantage isn't going to last too long in my opinion.  Other schools are figuring it out and will compete with us and overstep us.  I hope we can strike while the iron is hot with NIL.  We were 10-20 before and and are now top 5 at only 6 million.  Compared to football dollars its a drop in the bucket for some of these budgets.  

[go iu bb 9,713]

23 minutes ago, Herotime said:

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

A delusional AD is a terrible AD. I'd want him fired even more.

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

With the exception of maybe Arkansas no fan base is super excited about the new coach they landed this spring. May end up being a good thing we held off.

[Hoosierfan2017 25,015]

31 minutes ago, Herotime said:

Hypothetically, how would you feel about Dolson NOT going after a new coach this spring bc he/they sincerely believed they could land Br@d $teven$ NEXT spring? Would that change your perspective or lighten any of your criticisms of the admin?

No, we went down the Brad Stevens road before, and the road led us to Mike Woodson.