They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby]

1.  Does coach Woodson receive a lifetime season ticket/s upon his retirement…or do all ex players who completed their careers at IU already have lifetime passes?
2. If IU is unable to find an acceptable coach…does IU re-enter negotiations with coach Woodson?
3. Option:  Josh Schertz with $6,000,000 NIL

The lesson iu will never learn is you have to strike in a short window on guys like may. That was last year. Typical iu. We more than likely end up with someone like bronwell who had the one good year but a very average career. We may be doing this all over again in 5 years but he checks the squeaky clean box and imo that's priority number one to the iu admins.

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[Hornsby]

Bronwell had made the tourney 4 of the last 14 years but I'm telling you he is such an iu type of hire

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[KathywithaC]

6 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Lol. This is 100% the wrong take in every possible way. Literally couldn’t be more wrong.


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This is how it works. Any school that thinks they’re vulnerable, as UM did, gets to initiate extension discussions without the worry that May is talking directly with us. It played out exactly that way, which is why we never initiated Woodson’s departure. 

[KathywithaC]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:06 PM, IUHoosierJoe said:

 A couple questions,

1.  Was Woodson not aware of our procedure that we don’t evaluate and make decisions on coaches during the season?

2.  Why didn’t Woodson just quit effective immediately?

He wanted assurances so that the noise would die down, and we declined, saying we don’t evaluate mid-season. He thought he could strong arm this, and he couldn’t. He overplayed his hand, but he wasn’t forced to do that. He was just insecure.

[KathywithaC]

On 2/21/2025 at 11:19 AM, Hornsby said:

Yep the king certainly left on his own. Guys with 6 million dollar rosters and 5-8 records never get fired. That king fully expected another year after his stellar coaching job.

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Correct. He expected another year. That’s not exactly a secret.

[KathywithaC]

On 2/21/2025 at 10:52 AM, Golfman25 said:

So what are you saying?  That Dolson didn't tell him, directly or indirectly, that he would likely be let go at the end of the season, so Woodson just quit? Why would he quit?  He was under contract for next year.  

He wanted a public promise that he was our coach past this year, and Dolson said we wouldn’t do that. He got no assurance from others in the daisy chain, even after he made noise that he would leave. His separation took shape from there. But it wasn’t how Dolson wanted it to go, and he knew if would hamper our search for his replacement, which it has (there’s a reason we didn’t boot Tom Allen after far, far worse performance, and Dolson remembers well how that aided him in his search).

[KathywithaC]

On 2/21/2025 at 10:52 AM, Golfman25 said:

So what are you saying?  That Dolson didn't tell him, directly or indirectly, that he would likely be let go at the end of the season, so Woodson just quit? Why would he quit?  He was under contract for next year.  

He wanted a public promise that he was our coach past this year, and Dolson said we wouldn’t do that. He got no assurance from others in the daisy chain, even after he made noise that he would leave. His separation took shape from there. But it wasn’t how Dolson wanted it to go, and he knew if would hamper our search for his replacement, which it has (there’s a reason we didn’t boot Tom Allen after far, far worse performance, and Dolson remembers well how that aided him in his search).

[skhoosier2]

5 hours ago, Hornsby said:

The attitude of some of the coaching board is just unreal. They act like they have never swore in their life and beard is the second coming of the devil. I don't like people like that it's not up to me to judge others. And heaven forbid someone gets a second chance. That board is toxic imo.

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This isn’t the only place that’s toxic when it comes to disagreements on candidates. There’s been good posters run off other forums because their opinions don’t match some of the other more outspoken ones. You would actually think the decision on a coach is going to change lives by the way some attack others. It’s just a coach. We are just fans. We aren’t judge and jury over these coaches being mentioned for the IUBB job. Whoever is hired WILL NOT please all IU fans. At this point, I can’t wait for the search to be over and the hire to be announced. I’m also very much looking forward to football season. 

[Golfman25]

3 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

This is how it works. Any school that thinks they’re vulnerable, as UM did, gets to initiate extension discussions without the worry that May is talking directly with us. It played out exactly that way, which is why we never initiated Woodson’s departure. 

Hogwash.  Apparently Mike Woodson is the only person on the planet that didn’t think he would be gone at year end.  Michigan knew and knew what they had to do with may.  Miami just announced their hire.  People running big time athletic programs have very good “guesses” on who’s in and who’s out.  There are very few surprises.  

[Hornsby]

Correct. He expected another year. That’s not exactly a secret.

It's just comical is all he thought he deserved it. His arrogance is like something I've never seen.

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[Hornsby]

This isn’t the only place that’s toxic when it comes to disagreements on candidates. There’s been good posters run off other forums because their opinions don’t match some of the other more outspoken ones. You would actually think the decision on a coach is going to change lives by the way some attack others. It’s just a coach. We are just fans. We aren’t judge and jury over these coaches being mentioned for the IUBB job. Whoever is hired WILL NOT please all IU fans. At this point, I can’t wait for the search to be over and the hire to be announced. I’m also very much looking forward to football season. 

People can say what they want I just find it comical some think they are judge and jury on others based on accusations. I'm sure they had Duke lacrosse locked away on day one too. Why I'm pretty much staying off that thread.

 

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[J34]

22 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That be me and I want nothing to do with Beard.  I worked in an industry dominated by females and I saw too many come in to work with bruises and even broken arms because they "fell".  No other explanations, they just "fell".  Do not want Beard anywhere near our program.

I believe the number of DV cases that are dropped by the victim is around 70-80%. Sad.

[Juwan Moye]

9 hours ago, Hornsby said:

People can say what they want I just find it comical some think they are judge and jury on others based on accusations. I'm sure they had Duke lacrosse locked away on day one too. Why I'm pretty much staying off that thread.

 

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People virtue signaling on the internet, and convincing themselves they have some sort of undeserved moral high ground, is the bane of actual conversation.

[Juwan Moye]

14 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

He wanted a public promise that he was our coach past this year, and Dolson said we wouldn’t do that. He got no assurance from others in the daisy chain, even after he made noise that he would leave. His separation took shape from there. But it wasn’t how Dolson wanted it to go, and he knew if would hamper our search for his replacement, which it has (there’s a reason we didn’t boot Tom Allen after far, far worse performance, and Dolson remembers well how that aided him in his search).

For anyone who has listened to Woodson for the last 4 years, this is completely plausible. No clue if it actually happened but it also aligns with some of the reported hubris that the Hysterics had mentioned.

[J34]

21 hours ago, Hornsby said:

The attitude of some of the coaching board is just unreal. They act like they have never swore in their life and beard is the second coming of the devil. I don't like people like that it's not up to me to judge others. And heaven forbid someone gets a second chance. That board is toxic imo.

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The irony of you calling anything toxic is laughable. How is criticizing Beard any different than getting on here everyday and repeating the same garbage about Woodson. Is he the second coming of the devil? Should we put winning above all else. Get off your high horse about people not wanting a guy who admits to having a drinking issue, and had DV (suffocation /strangulation) charges dropped, which most cases are. You hate CMW for not winning games, but love Beard because he'll win us more games. Isn't you criticizing others for having a different viewpoint, essentially you judging others? 

[iu eyedoc]

On 2/21/2025 at 10:34 AM, KathywithaC said:

Woodson made it, though a series of his actions. IU didn’t initiate it. They very likely would’ve at the end of the season, but they didn’t a few weeks ago. That was all MW.

Cool so IU saves $8M

[iu eyedoc]

On 2/21/2025 at 11:14 PM, Hornsby said:

But don't dare hire beard because some of our holier than though perfect humans on the other thread who have never done anything bad hate him. The holier than thou attitude of some is just unreal. Talk about people full of themselves.

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Agree100%.

Who on here hasn't bitten and choked a girlfriend in a fight after she broke your glasses.

[OliviaPope40]

3,000 pages by the start of the game?

[iu eyedoc]

13 hours ago, Hornsby said:

People can say what they want I just find it comical some think they are judge and jury on others based on accusations. I'm sure they had Duke lacrosse locked away on day one too. Why I'm pretty much staying off that thread.

 

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Based on accusations? This is complete bullsh*t. Unless you somehow believe she bruised and bit herself there was a domestic violence event. We don't know if it would have been prosecutable or who perpetuated it, but no one denies it happened.

 

[Hornsby]

2 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

Based on accusations? This is complete bullsh*t. Unless you somehow believe she bruised and bit herself there was a domestic violence event. We don't know if it would have been prosecutable or who perpetuated it, but no one denies it happened.

 

What is complete bs is being  called guilty until proven innocent. He was not convicted in a court of law. I am guessing you had the duke lacrosse guys and guilty and ready to sentence on day one without a trial. I almost guarantee you did.  Who needs a trial when you can just run on what someone else claims happened.