They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[WeeDerkaNaut 580]

Just now, IUFAN1976 said:

Honestly he adapted his coaching from the NBA and zero from RMK.  Coaching in the NBA is not about developing players or game preparation. players are already talented, it’s about setting the starting lineup, substituting, and calling timeouts when teams go on runs.  Basically, there isn’t much coaching in the NBA, at least from what Woodson adapted and learned 

Yeah it's a completely different mindset and it requires so much more insight, foresight, prep, planning, practice, among so many other things. RMK himself practiced what he taught his players on and off the court. He led by example and pushed them to heights of greatness they probably didn't even imagine for themselves. College ball has its own culture and structure and MW just doesn't understand it, or he just doesn't care. Either way it's frustrating and painful.

[Scotty R 3,116]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Unfortunately no. My first real IUBB memories were from the Sampson era.

Damn I feel old because my first real memories come from Woodson playing at IU 

[KNOBYDOX 268]

I guess the first time I remember really paid attention was when I was at IU at a game against OSU that went to overtime.1964 

[WeeDerkaNaut 580]

Also dear Lord Purdookie is going to absolutely incinerate us... We're behind everyone else watching the game because we paused for dinner but Michigan looks like a bunch of middle schoolers in comparison to PU. PU will do to us what Hulk did to Loki 

[DChoosier 9,379]

1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

It's pretty much been bad times for 10 years give or take a year. That's loyalty. These last two coaches took away alot of my passion. I just choose to do other activities now.

 

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Just curious.

Aside from 1,500 posts on this thread what are your other activities?

[Hornsby 3,626]

Just curious. Aside from 1,500 posts on this thread what are your other activities? 

 

Kids sports

Working out

Fishing

Hiking

Taking care of the yard

Taking my wife out

Training my new dog

 

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[IUFAN1976 4,320]

8 minutes ago, WeeDerkaNaut said:

Yeah it's a completely different mindset and it requires so much more insight, foresight, prep, planning, practice, among so many other things. RMK himself practiced what he taught his players on and off the court. He led by example and pushed them to heights of greatness they probably didn't even imagine for themselves. College ball has its own culture and structure and MW just doesn't understand it, or he just doesn't care. Either way it's frustrating and painful.

MW coaches and runs a team like it’s the NBA.  He has no specific system he runs, he just tries to either recruit, which is nonexistent, or obtain the best talent available that will play for him.  He thinks he can win with having more talent than the other team.  He doesn’t coach with any sense of urgency, matter of fact what he is doing is not coaching.  He doesn’t do any game preparation and strategizing but the other is.  They are preparing and playing to their strengths and taking advantage of IU’s weaknesses.   That is why Woodson is 15-37, I think that is what I read, against quad 1 teams and that is because quad 1 teams are better coached 

[DChoosier 9,379]

16 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Kids sports
Working out
Fishing
Hiking
Taking care of the yard
Taking my wife out

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Those are all good and……I was just joking and will admit finding a little humor in you saying you had lost passion but still being invested enough to write a billion fire him posts. 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

14 minutes ago, KNOBYDOX said:

I guess the first time I remember really paid attention was when I was at IU at a game against OSU that went to overtime.1964 

Damn, I thought I’ve seen a lot.  Respect, total respect!!!  You have literally seen it all and then some!  

[KNOBYDOX 268]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Damn, I thought I’ve seen a lot.  Respect, total respect!!!  You have literally seen it all and then some!  

I have to admit sometimes I was too busy running restaurants to pay attention.

[WeeDerkaNaut 580]

3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

MW coaches and runs a team like it’s the NBA.  He has no specific system he runs, he just tries to either recruit, which is nonexistent, or obtain the best talent available that will play for him.  He thinks he can win with having more talent than the other team.  He doesn’t coach with any sense of urgency, matter of fact what he is doing is not coaching.  He doesn’t do any game preparation and strategizing but the other is.  They are preparing and playing to their strengths and taking advantage of IU’s weaknesses.   That is why Woodson is 15-37, I think that is what I read, against quad 1 teams and that is because quad 1 teams are better coached 

Oh I know. There is zero prep, zero effort or real thought put into any aspect of his job. Most of each game he spends sitting in his chair looking completely lost as to what's happening on the court. Northwestern repeatedly abused Mgbako with threes off screens. That's preparation and being able to recognize an advantage real time. That's X's and O's. That's just one example. We're going to see a lot more examples in many different aspects of coaching in our upcoming games. Most, if not all of the teams we're heading into will recognize our weaknesses in the film room and maximize the advantages they can glean from it on court during game time. 

[DChoosier 9,379]

21 minutes ago, KNOBYDOX said:

I guess the first time I remember really paid attention was when I was at IU at a game against OSU that went to overtime.1964 

I was a freshman at IU during the undefeated 75-76 season. 
You went to a game in ‘64?  Thanks for making me feel young……

[ap2345 10,700]

2 hours ago, Artie86 said:

Something tells me that the most recent BB commit is a diversion from the Woodson camp. They are wanting everyone to think that he still plans to be here and can pull in some good players despite the current situation….

It’s not. Although Woodson tried to get the spin out there that he recruited him really hard lol 

[DChoosier 9,379]

Landing the Bosnian should mean nothing to the administration.
These day (I.e. portal/NIL)  the fear of losing  recruits, or players, should totally be out the window.

[AZ Hoosier 9,886]

2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I think many of us on here will be right there with you.  I bet you’ll see a lot of empty seats in AH.  Apathy is starting to set in with the fanbase!

IMO, apathy is a better weapon against the administration and Woodson than simply booing... but if "booing" is your only weapon, use it!

[AZ Hoosier 9,886]

Does Woodson have one of these?

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

12 minutes ago, WeeDerkaNaut said:

Oh I know. There is zero prep, zero effort or real thought put into any aspect of his job. Most of each game he spends sitting in his chair looking completely lost as to what's happening on the court. Northwestern repeatedly abused Mgbako with threes off screens. That's preparation and being able to recognize an advantage real time. That's X's and O's. That's just one example. We're going to see a lot more examples in many different aspects of coaching in our upcoming games. Most, if not all of the teams we're heading into will recognize our weaknesses in the film room and maximize the advantages they can glean from it on court during game time. 

There no game preparation.  He doesn’t play to his advantages and the opponents weaknesses.  He’s lazy and puts little effort into anything related to coaching, recruiting and developing.

[Rico 3,452]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

Damn I feel old because my first real memories come from Woodson playing at IU 

That 1980 Big Ten championship run was something else.  Fondly remember that final game against tOSU.  Damn near cried when the Boilers bounced us on their way to the FF.  I miss that Woody.

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

39 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

IMO, apathy is a better weapon against the administration and Woodson than simply booing... but if "booing" is your only weapon, use it!

I think these home games can and probably will get ugly 

[WeeDerkaNaut 580]

17 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

There no game preparation.  He doesn’t play to his advantages and the opponents weaknesses.  He’s lazy and puts little effort into anything related to coaching, recruiting and developing.

Facts, all of them. It's been hinted at that there are psychological issues in play with Woodson. If true, I have to wonder how severe they are, and I have to wonder how long they've been affecting him. If they were present pre hiring I then have to wonder if the administration knew and allowed the hire anyway. But that's a complicated rabbit hole in and of itself. Hell this whole situation is. Who knows what the truth is as to why he does things the way he does. I just simply cannot understand how he thinks he can win without completing a single coaching task required to be successful, especially knowing who HIS coach was. It just breaks my brain. I'm not a coach and the extent of my on court experience was getting up roughly a thousand shots a day decades ago and playing one vs one against one of the actual players at my school and even I understand this stuff. I just watch our games and the whole time I'm asking myself how he doesn't get it? Even I know you can't just chuck money to hang banners so someone please explain it to me :(