Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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7 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

I kinda looked into this idea.

At least per their website, the Herald-Times charges $662 for a full page ad. I’d be willing to pony up some cash if someone here with good writing skills ( not Scotty R) would want to write a petition to Dolson and the board.

My my you’ve really come around lately Steub! 

One of us! One of us! 

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17 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Yes.  Absolutely.  The Woodson effect is real.

https://x.com/nathalieabc17/status/1883328305107259681?s=46
 

 

Seriously though, good for Bates.  Seemed like a likeable guy that found a great landing spot.

[Hornsby 2,488]

My guess would be no, however, is their lack of contribution due to lack of talent or lack of a HC/Staff? Take Bates for an example, 2 years removed he is the leading scorer on his SEC team. Or maybe  CJ or Banks playing well for their teams. We have a systematic problem here that starts and stops with MW. 

Yeah but gunn and banks aren't big money guys. My guess is tucker isn't taking a paycut and will move on.

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19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I would not want any of those guys except maybe cupps. It's time to start fresh.

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I've heard but not for sure that Cupps has a deal in place for next season with Dayton.

[Hornsby 2,488]

I've heard but not for sure that Cupps has a deal in place for next season with Dayton.

Not surprising. Seems like a good school for him.

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13 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Man, could we just get one solid leak to confirm the light at the end of the tunnel?

What kind of light are you looking for? If it’s just Woodson gone, I think we’re at the 95% confidence interval already. 
 

If you’re looking for competitive ball the rest of the season, I’m guessing it will be here and there but mostly disappointing

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Whoever the new coach is next year needs to get the ball rolling and get IU in the players era tourney asap.   It was a massive success and now for next year 16 teams will participate in it.  Double what they had this year.   IU won’t get in nexts years but they better start thinking ahead.    Auburn just dropped out of Atlantis to be in nexts years 

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The guys you went back with a new coach are clearly the guys who have some talent but have underachieve due to poor coaching. Banks, Bates, even Gunn to some degree all fall in that category. They are flourishing or at least performing way better than expectation based on what they did at IU. That is why for me I would like to see Mack and Rice return. I’m not saying I think they will. It’s just who I would like to have back.  Cupps seems like an old-school Indiana type player, but I’m just not sure he is good enough. Same with Tucker and Carlyle. Just don’t think they are good enough.  Reneau is the biggest question mark for me. Has some obvious talent, but his holes are so large. I’m not sure that I can see them getting fixed.  
 

changing culture and cleaning house is important, but I also know that having a roster that is entirely new presents some other challenges. Having a little continuity helps. Given how bad things have gotten, I’m not sure anybody will stay unless we overpay like we have been doing. 

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9 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Some of you want guys like tucker and Carlyle back. But the fact is that are vastly overpaid and I'm sure a new coach isn't going to pay them what Woodson did. Are they willing to take a big paycut?

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Probably depends on: 

1) our overall NIL pot

2) The coach

 3) The other options out there

 

 For a guy like Tucker, I’m guessing he’ll get good money in the portal anyways. Do it’s just whether you think he’ll fit or not or if you want to pay that to some other guy that didn’t work out someplace. Kansas and AJ Storr is a good example of lots of money spent/received but both parties are probably worse off. 

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1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

True. The portal moves quickly and they have a short amount of time to look into things before they commit. Even a little investigation should have given them some pause and maybe it did, maybe that is why we had to overpay to get everyone of our players, because they knew it was tough sledding. They just didn’t know how bad it really was 

They should of look no further then Liam decommitting after our abysmal season.  He knew that Woody archaic offense wasn't there to get him shots. 

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2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

What kind of light are you looking for? If it’s just Woodson gone, I think we’re at the 95% confidence interval already. 
 

If you’re looking for competitive ball the rest of the season, I’m guessing it will be here and there but mostly disappointing

Honestly would like to see something happen sooner than later, but if after the season would like something a little more definitive. My faith that the outgoing QB won't try some last minute B.S. and keep his buddy's job, just isn't that strong. 

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3 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Honestly would like to see something happen sooner than later, but if after the season would like something a little more definitive. My faith that the outgoing QB won't try some last minute B.S. and keep his buddy's job, just isn't that strong. 

Even the Roman ceasars had to answer to the mob. Barring a miracle it’s tough to see how they put this back together. You probably derail the program by bringing him back and the good thing about the NIL era is that you need fans engaged.  
 

The more I think about it, the more I think they go the Mike Davis route. They’ll eventually announce he’s retiring at the end of the season. 

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21 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Some of you want guys like tucker and Carlyle back. But the fact is that are vastly overpaid and I'm sure a new coach isn't going to pay them what Woodson did. Are they willing to take a big paycut?

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I am not starting any convo that includes you NOT wanting Tucker and wanting Cupps. 

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26 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

I kinda looked into this idea.

At least per their website, the Herald-Times charges $662 for a full page ad. I’d be willing to pony up some cash if someone here with good writing skills ( not Scotty R) would want to write a petition to Dolson and the board.

[Uspshoosier 46,810]

44 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

They should have look no further then Liam decommitting after our abysmal season.  He knew that Woody archaic offense wasn't there to get him shots. 

In my opinion Liam waited it out to see if a move would be made.  The minute they announced Woody was coming back he bailed.  I believe if they made a move last year he is probably still a Hoosier with the right hire.   He absolutely made the right choice getting as far away from that offense as possible 

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13 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

They should of look no further then Liam decommitting after our abysmal season.  He knew that Woody archaic offense wasn't there to get him shots. 

"It's not my job to get them shots"- Mike Woodson 

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3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I am not starting any convo that includes you NOT wanting Tucker and wanting Cupps. 

Give me sisley and the Bosnian kid and go from there. 

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31 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

I kinda looked into this idea.

At least per their website, the Herald-Times charges $662 for a full page ad. I’d be willing to pony up some cash if someone here with good writing skills ( not Scotty R) would want to write a petition to Dolson and the board.

[Hornsby 2,488]

I am not starting any convo that includes you NOT wanting Tucker and wanting Cupps. 

I'm not having any conversations with you so we agree.

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1 hour ago, Pagoda said:

And Leal is supposedly $400K, which is insane for 2.5 ppg.  Breaks my brain every time I think about it.  At least it’s our dumb donors paying for it.

Do we all remember Tim Priller "middle school bob"  Hell Woody would of paid him 400k to be our mascot like he did Leal and long as he told us to "CHILL"  What I marked in bold just makes my blood boil. It's a freaking joke and if I was Turdue fan in Mackey Friday I would definitely have a sign referring to IU's gross overspending on NIL for trash results. 

 

Maybe something along the lines of those old MasterCard commercials.

 

"There are some things Woody can't buy like a tournament birth"  for everything else...

"There are some things Woody can't buy a CLUE" for everything else...

"There are some things Woody can't buy a Northwestern W for everything else...

 

I have a lot more but might be fun to let you all come up with a few.  Ready set go!!!