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Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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I don't like watching a team of rentals.

I don't like watching a team that plays a boring offense and always gets burned by the same things over and over.

I don't like a team that can't shoot.

I really don't enjoy IU basketball these days. My interest any more is "morbid curiosity".

Sad.

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

We should make a list of things he will talk about these days.

1. Mike Woodson

2. Woody

3 Wood dawg

Might be able to get him to give an update on his lawn care, lol.

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I love IU basketball..but I've never quite felt so pissed about the current state of things.  Not at the end of archie or crean was is quite so... hopeless.  It's because we have to sit through a worthless meaningless 12 months, to fire him (which we COULD/SHOULD do right now) to start a 1-2-3 year rebuild with the next new coach.  Just rip the band aid off right now and let a new coach attempt to hit the portal.  Woody isn't the guy to use the portal. This is a joke.

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2 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Dolson comes from a fundraising background.  I'm sure his instincts are to keep the big donors happy.  Imo, it will take pressure from other good size donors for us to move off Woodson.  Maybe a donor civil war is in our future.  

This is why you don’t name buildings after living rich people who have nothing to do with basketball other than being rich.  We are beholden to the donor class beyond say if it was just Kroger Assembly Hall. Or *gasp* just Assembly Hall. Kentucky- Named after Rupp, Kansas— Named after Phog, UNC— Dean Smith etc, etc. if we weren’t a poverty program we would have told them, respectfully that AH would not be named after a donor and found something else like we did for Cuban. Kinda hard to argue with the families on the marquee. 

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7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

We should make a list of things he will talk about these days.

1. Mike Woodson

2. Woody

3 Wood dawg

4. Just not going anywhere.

Joke was on us though, he didn’t just mean as coach, he meant it literally, as in, not going to sectionals. 

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It was unbelievable that Indiana was debating whether or not give Woodson a fourth season, it was unbelievable they announced he was coming back (or, leaked to the Indy Star that he was coming back...sources say), it is no longer unbelievable that Mike Woodson is getting a chance for a fourth season. It should be but it is not. I keep reading, both on here and on Peegs, "Indiana has to make a move on Woodson", "IU has to get him to retire"...they do not feel they have to and therefore they will not. The Simon family (possibly the Cook family too, I don't know..."big donors" plural continues to get referenced so maybe it's more than just the Simon family) wants to give Woodson another year so he is getting another year. The status of the program does not matter, the trajectory does not matter, the data that says rebounding from this season to have a good 2024-2025 season would be historically unprecedented does not matter, the fact that Trey Galloway and Malik Reneau (who has absolutely no reason on paper to be unhappy...he's getting paid well, he's fed the ball in the post over and over and will continue to be, he plays until he's foul trouble...but if he leaves, it will be for one reason: he does not like or believe in Mike Woodson) might leave makes the hump/mountain all the harder to climb and does not matter. 

All that written, this is what is in front of us and I'm the type that has to attempt to make the best of something while wallowing in misery. This piece of information was brought up by a poster on Peegs, credit to him or her, and got me looking into it. So, it seems likely Kenny Payne gets canned from Louisville. He was a disaster as a head coach but was an accomplished recruiter in the past. As we know, Mike Woodson loves working with his friends and we think a new position that has to do with recruiting is being made to help Mike Woodson well, do his job. For his lack of coaching accumen, Payne actually puts effort into recruiting. Maybe Kenny Payne takes that job. If he does, Louisville is considered a potential leader for a guy IU was in on at one time: Joson Sanon. Sanon is a small forward, much like Liam McNeeley. He's a borderline 5-star prospect and is probably reclassing to 2024 (his natural class). He is a really good scorer. If he were to reclass and Payne came to Bloomington, maybe IU makes him some ridiculous offer to come to IU for a season and fill a spot on the roster. That'd be one down and like...8 or 9 to go ha.

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2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I mean in all seriousness we have zero recruits coming in and you refuse to talk about what your plan for next season is. This is embarrassing. I know it has been but it's getting worse with each day

His plan is to play golf all summer and let the Simon family throw stacks of cash at portal players.  Pretty obvious.

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I will agree that things have gone quiet. At least on my end.

I think one of two things happened. It was never a big deal to the administration, he was always coming back but they started to hear from people asking questions so they released the statement.

Or they did to quiet things down and not try to figure out which way to go. 

Knowing the backing he has from one particular family I would still be surprised if anything happens. 

Except they haven't released a statement as far as I know. It was leaked to the media that Woodson was coming back but that is it. No official statement either way. Pretty bad way to run things if they are decided that he's coming back.

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3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I mean in all seriousness we have zero recruits coming in and you refuse to talk about what your plan for next season is. This is embarrassing. I know it has been but it's getting worse with each day

It's flat out insulting to me.  I pay attention to IU basketball / recruiting every day of the year.  I see 0 commits or positive trajectory for my program and I'm given this answer by woody?  Absolutely infuriating 

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2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I mean in all seriousness we have zero recruits coming in and you refuse to talk about what your plan for next season is. This is embarrassing. I know it has been but it's getting worse with each day

I was embarrassed during the Wisconsin road game. I stopped watching his team after that. A team's character is a reflection of the coach's character. 

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