IUBB vs Minnesota - Friday, 01.12.24 @ 6:30 on FS1

[NashvilleHoosier 3,729]

21 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Last years team despite the 1-4 conference start was still projected in the field because of North Carolina win and arguably at the time the biggest road in college basketball. Add those wins  with smashing teams they should their NET was comfortably in the range of a tourney team.   This years 4-2 start in conference is better then last year but they have 0 signature wins this year and didn’t smash anyone so their NET is well below where it needs to be.   Good news is they have plenty more opportunities to change that but the bad news is they have less wiggle room for error like lasts years team had by winning those early games 

This is the far more detailed point I was trying to make. Though this year’s team sits in a better spot record-wise at this point, I’m having a very hard time believing they’ll find their name called on selection Sunday. Though last year’s team was in a rut at this time, it wasn’t hard to see their path to the dance. 

[Uspshoosier 46,554]

1 minute ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

This is the far more detailed point I was trying to make. Though this year’s team sits in a better spot record-wise at this point, I’m having a very hard time believing they’ll find their name called on selection Sunday. Though last year’s team was in a rut at this time, it wasn’t hard to see their path to the dance. 

I still see a path for them this year.  They won’t be a protected seed like they were last year but as far as just making the tourney as a 10-12 seed I definitely still see a path.   The difference between those bottom tourney teams and NIT teams is very thin.  IU won’t be competed with the upper teams for a spot they will be competing with just as flawed teams as they are.   Until they lose home games to lower B1G teams that path will be there.  If they have a hiccup against Penn St down the road  then their path becomes cloudy.   The next 3 games coming up are bonus games instead of must win games.  If they lose them all then they won’t be penalized too much.  Projected 1 seed and 2 other top 4 projected seeds with 2 of those on the road.    Home game against Iowa will be massive for IUs resume 

[Hoosier DaDa 2,809]

2 hours ago, OliviaPope40 said:

Now on to the women's game tomorrow anybody have anything strong.

not sure what you talking about but I did stop by the dispensary today.  Yeah it's pretty strong.

[DChoosier 8,775]

4 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

This is the far more detailed point I was trying to make. Though this year’s team sits in a better spot record-wise at this point, I’m having a very hard time believing they’ll find their name called on selection Sunday. Though last year’s team was in a rut at this time, it wasn’t hard to see their path to the dance. 

We were in full meltdown mode this time last year as we got smoked by Arizona, were totally non-competitive at Kansas and lost 3 BT games in a row against Iowa, Northwestern and Penn State. I realize we had good wins vs Xavier and UNC but at this point last year the sentiment was that we were doomed, no one played hard, Woody had lost the team, we will be lucky to make the NIT, etc etc.

[Uspshoosier 46,554]

On the flip side if iu wins 2 of the next 3 games they will be projected in the field  by most bracketolgist.   It would only be 2 more wins but they would be signature wins 

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,538]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

On the flip side if iu wins 2 of the next 3 games they will be projected in the field  by most bracketolgist.   It would only be 2 more wins but they would be signature wins 

Really wanna win at the kohl center.

[JSHoosier 20,520]

8 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

I really feel like some of you watch different games.

I agree with @RaceToTheTop (more and more which is funny to me) - he is not good. His D is not good. He was getting abused. His lack of shot taking, shot making when he decides to shoot, putting players on bad positions late in the clock, etc.  which is all fine but let’s be real. 

yes, X played bad. Probably made a lot of fans happy. Some of you would probably feel differently if you yourself or knew someone who has come off a major injury, trying to battle back, made a dumb decision, etc. I said before, Fife played the same as X with his “dirty” play and fans love him. He was even dirty in practice. 

X is majorly in his head. He knows he needs to be better. He said it after OSU “I need to grow up.” The booing of our own players etc. is not helping. this is why they are missing free throws. Shooting all night wouldn’t help. They can hit them there. They are feeling pressure. 

X will battle back. Just like MM has while so many wrote him off early in the year. X will probably be the reason we best Purdue (if that happens). 

Watch this video and listen to Fife talk about the anxiety and pressure and what it does. This is what is going on with X. 
 

 

Missing free throws has been a consistent problem, from year to year. So unless they've always been booed the boo birds aren't the cause there and you're looking for an excuse.

Johnson has always been very inconsistent even before injury, and if he's not as a 6th year senior he never will be. He's never been a consistent positive for IU even though he has the physical tools to be very good. Fan displeasure isn't why he has his thinker lodged firmly in his sphincter.

[AKHoosier 7,064]

I loved the effort and energy last night. 

I'd be stoked if we could parlay this kind of effort into taking down Purdue on Tuesday. Beating them 3 times in a row would be glorious, and we desperately need a marquee win.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,829]

The Daily Hoosier -

Mackenzie Mgbako is shooting 14-of-29 (48.2%) from behind the arc over his past six games   

Trey Galloway has recorded 37 assists to just 10 turnovers in his last six games.

Over their last three games, Indiana's opponents have only made 15-of-69 (21.7 percent) from beyond the arc

[IUFAN1976 3,638]

9 hours ago, DChoosier said:

We read his body language completely differently tonight.
To me he looked like a guy that realized he really f’d up, was a bit withdrawn and trying to feel/earn his way back in.

I am glad we can agree to disagree 

[Home Jersey 8,770]

Regardless of how you feel about X (his play, his attitude... I am not his biggest fan necessarily/don't love everything about the guy either)... the bottom line is very simple. 

For this team to make the tournament, we need Xavier Johnson to play a key role. What that role looks like we all certainly have different ideas, but we can't afford for him not to play a significant amount of minutes with our current backcourt options. 

Root for him. Root for the team. Or don't, if you like being miserable I guess lol. Some really do enjoy having something to complain about more than a team to support. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,726]

Was at the game. Had some fun moments with great seats this game.

 

Concerns continued:

 

-Free throw shooting obv. Crowd was really down about this. Quite audible early and often.

 

-rebounding. Both offense and especially defense. Crowd did not seem to respond to this much except on the possession where Minnesota shot 3 straight 3s. Ware rebounds with length. Little fundamentals and offensively we never-very rarely crash the glass including on 3 point attempts. Ugh.

 

Positives-

 

Trey G was great besides his free throw shooting is abysmal and he knows it. Everyone knows it. Great game.

 

Reneau-is just impressive. He gets fouled a lot and doesn’t get calls.

 

Mgbako-did what we need from him. More active on D with hands and feet.

 

Ware-did some great things but man he needs to go AT the rim when down low. His fadeaways are such a gift to the other team. Squeeze the orange and go up strong through contact please. Would have made the difference in 4-5 possessions.

 

Other-

 

The crowd booing X and cheering Cupps rubs me wrong. Both guys are playing terribly. Let’s hope we get some things figured out at PG. I’d say go Trey at PG and find a SG answer. Maybe Gunn.

 

Anyway, you could feel a bit of the vitriol from the fanbase in this one but the crowd was also pretty good at times. Let’s hope the team doesn’t spiral.

 

Let’s kick Purdues butt and jumpstart this season on Tuesday.

 

 

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[coonhounds 9,332]

Was at the game. Had some fun moments with great seats this game.
 
Concerns continued:
 
-Free throw shooting obv. Crowd was really down about this. Quite audible early and often.
 
-rebounding. Both offense and especially defense. Crowd did not seem to respond to this much except on the possession where Minnesota shot 3 straight 3s. Ware rebounds with length. Little fundamentals and offensively we never-very rarely crash the glass including on 3 point attempts. Ugh.
 
Positives-
 
Trey G was great besides his free throw shooting is abysmal and he knows it. Everyone knows it. Great game.
 
Reneau-is just impressive. He gets fouled a lot and doesn’t get calls.
 
Mgbako-did what we need from him. More active on D with hands and feet.
 
Ware-did some great things but man he needs to go AT the rim when down low. His fadeaways are such a gift to the other team. Squeeze the orange and go up strong through contact please. Would have made the difference in 4-5 possessions.
 
Other-
 
The crowd booing X and cheering Cupps rubs me wrong. Both guys are playing terribly. Let’s hope we get some things figured out at PG. I’d say go Trey at PG and find a SG answer. Maybe Gunn.
 
Anyway, you could feel a bit of the vitriol from the fanbase in this one but the crowd was also pretty good at times. Let’s hope the team doesn’t spiral.
 
Let’s kick Purdues butt and jumpstart this season on Tuesday.
 
 
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I didn't have a problem with the players getting booed in the crean and Archie years not sure why lol. Last night I was disgusted. Yes they suck at free throws but I guarantee booing will not help this bunch it will get in their heads. I guess I am not against booing if energy and effort are the problem. Last night that wasn't the case. They were kids playing hard who for whatever reason can't shoot free throws or rebound lol

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[IUFAN1976 3,638]

16 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Was at the game. Had some fun moments with great seats this game.

 

Concerns continued:

 

-Free throw shooting obv. Crowd was really down about this. Quite audible early and often.

 

-rebounding. Both offense and especially defense. Crowd did not seem to respond to this much except on the possession where Minnesota shot 3 straight 3s. Ware rebounds with length. Little fundamentals and offensively we never-very rarely crash the glass including on 3 point attempts. Ugh.

 

Positives-

 

Trey G was great besides his free throw shooting is abysmal and he knows it. Everyone knows it. Great game.

 

Reneau-is just impressive. He gets fouled a lot and doesn’t get calls.

 

Mgbako-did what we need from him. More active on D with hands and feet.

 

Ware-did some great things but man he needs to go AT the rim when down low. His fadeaways are such a gift to the other team. Squeeze the orange and go up strong through contact please. Would have made the difference in 4-5 possessions.

 

Other-

 

The crowd booing X and cheering Cupps rubs me wrong. Both guys are playing terribly. Let’s hope we get some things figured out at PG. I’d say go Trey at PG and find a SG answer. Maybe Gunn.

 

Anyway, you could feel a bit of the vitriol from the fanbase in this one but the crowd was also pretty good at times. Let’s hope the team doesn’t spiral.

 

Let’s kick Purdues butt and jumpstart this season on Tuesday.

 

 

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Nice post. X brought this on himself and them cheering Cupps was a jab at X.  
 

I would go with Trey at point guard, try Gunn at shooting guard and Cupps the 1st guard off the bench.  X can sit right down on the end of the bench next to Newton and the walk-ons.  Who knows, by inserting Gunn into the starting lineup it might jump start his confidence.  I think a lot of fans, including myself, have seen enough and have grown tired of the X show.  The guy brings too much drama on and off the floor!

[IUFAN1976 3,638]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Regardless of how you feel about X (his play, his attitude... I am not his biggest fan necessarily/don't love everything about the guy either)... the bottom line is very simple. 

For this team to make the tournament, we need Xavier Johnson to play a key role. What that role looks like we all certainly have different ideas, but we can't afford for him not to play a significant amount of minutes with our current backcourt options. 

Root for him. Root for the team. Or don't, if you like being miserable I guess lol. Some really do enjoy having something to complain about more than a team to support. 

His role is cheerleader right on the end of the bench with Newton and the walk-ons.  

[NashvilleHoosier 3,729]

11 hours ago, DChoosier said:

We were in full meltdown mode this time last year as we got smoked by Arizona, were totally non-competitive at Kansas and lost 3 BT games in a row against Iowa, Northwestern and Penn State. I realize we had good wins vs Xavier and UNC but at this point last year the sentiment was that we were doomed, no one played hard, Woody had lost the team, we will be lucky to make the NIT, etc etc.

Totally. I was right there in the middle of the meltdown. But even at that, we had a resume that was tournament quality at the time, had 2 really nice wins, and had blown out the cupcakes. We were in a funk and things looked bleak. But we had at least proved something previous to that funk. This year’s squad has nothing much at all to lean on, zero high quality wins, and several way too close wins against teams we have no business playing close. I personally had a much easier time seeing last year’s team still dancing at this point in the season than I do this year’s team. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,729]

11 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

I still see a path for them this year.  They won’t be a protected seed like they were last year but as far as just making the tourney as a 10-12 seed I definitely still see a path.   The difference between those bottom tourney teams and NIT teams is very thin.  IU won’t be competed with the upper teams for a spot they will be competing with just as flawed teams as they are.   Until they lose home games to lower B1G teams that path will be there.  If they have a hiccup against Penn St down the road  then their path becomes cloudy.   The next 3 games coming up are bonus games instead of must win games.  If they lose them all then they won’t be penalized too much.  Projected 1 seed and 2 other top 4 projected seeds with 2 of those on the road.    Home game against Iowa will be massive for IUs resume 

I should clarify that when I say it’s hard for me to see a path, i mean on the floor not on the schedule. Sure, looking at the schedule we have a clear path. When I watch what happens on the floor….eh, the path is quite obstructed.

[Uspshoosier 46,554]

7 hours ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

I should clarify that when I say it’s hard for me to see a path, i mean on the floor not on the schedule. Sure, looking at the schedule we have a clear path. When I watch what happens on the floor….eh, the path is quite obstructed.

I hear you but the other teams that they will be competing with near the cut line have or will look just as bad on the floor.  Got to field 68 teams.   Some teams that are projected into the field right now have had moments where the product on the floor was hard to watch.    Even if there isn’t 36 deserving at-large teams you got to fill 36 teams 

[HoosierHoopster 7,257]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

The Daily Hoosier -

Mackenzie Mgbako is shooting 14-of-29 (48.2%) from behind the arc over his past six games   

Trey Galloway has recorded 37 assists to just 10 turnovers in his last six games.

Over their last three games, Indiana's opponents have only made 15-of-69 (21.7 percent) from beyond the arc

Bako came in an outstanding shooter. Some questioned that early on, bc he wasn’t connecting well early on. Now that it’s clear he’s found his shot in college game speed, hopefully Woodson and staff will build on this by running more plays for him which in turn will help open the lane, create space weak side, and give Malik and Ware more room to work with.

And repeating myself to death (I know), run plays for MORE outside shots, yes we do have guys who can shoot, take advantage of it

[GloryDays 5,932]

12 hours ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

not sure what you talking about but I did stop by the dispensary today.  Yeah it's pretty strong.

You Northern Hoosiers are lucky Michigan is so close.