IUBB 2023 B1G Tournament March 8-12, 2023

[reconmkd]

On 3/10/2023 at 7:51 PM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Wish him the best of luck and let us know how he does.

Well he was last minute he was switched to Team 2, but still beat his highest score and qualified for the Eastern Nationals. Overall his elementary team won the state championship in both 3D and bullseye and also had the top individual elementary female in both events as well. Overall great day other than the basketball game! 

[MikeRoberts]

It’s been evident on Tv but even more so yesterday watching up close IRL - our 3 point shooters don’t want to shoot. 

We run zero plays to get them open and when the ball is kicked out to them, it’s rarely received in the pocket with the player firmly planted and ready to shoot.

when they do catch it, they are thinking pump fake, drive, pass.

Why? They packed the lane and gave us open threes and we passed them up all game. 

[HoosierAloha]

13 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s been evident on Tv but even more so yesterday watching up close IRL - our 3 point shooters don’t want to shoot. 

We run zero plays to get them open and when the ball is kicked out to them, it’s rarely received in the pocket with the player firmly planted and ready to shoot.

when they do catch it, they are thinking pump fake, drive, pass.

Why? They packed the lane and gave us open threes and we passed them up all game. 

As you mentioned, our "shooters" are rarely ever shot ready in our half court offense. I see them more ready on fast breaks than in the half court which is weird.

Edit: we go into long stretches of just standing when the ball goes into the post too.

[HoosierAloha]

purdoodoo should thank us for wearing down PSU

[FortWayneHoosier]

5 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

purdoodoo should thank us for wearing down PSU

I don’t see Penn state backing down here. They got hot from 3 it’s gonna be a close one 

[Huntnfreak]

We didn’t wear them out…they wore us out and took our lunch money!! 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

It would be interesting to see the data on this. Giving up threes isn't the only reason for losses but a piece to it. I would guess giving up offensive rebounds from either threes or attempting to block shots which results in quick and easy 2s along with fouling the **** out of teams had a lot more to do with it.

It didn't seem our lineup matched our results. We had a "big" lineup but struggled to rebound and get to the line enough for that "big" lineup. The modern offensive you mentioned at the end also has a lot to do with reaching our potential on that end of the floor.

In conference play, 29% of opponent's missed shots in conference play resulted in offensive rebounds.  Statistics on what happened specifically after a missed three pointer simply aren't available that I can find. 

But the idea that IU has been poor defensively against the three in Big Ten competition simply has not been true, which was my point.  The same measures I used for IU -- 4 times in conference teams hit 40% of their three pointers and 10 times then were under 30% -- when using that for Purdue, 8 times teams were over 40% and 5 times they were under 30%. IU opponents hit 32.8% of their threes, Purdue 33.8%.  Indiana was third in conference only games in the Big Ten in defensive three point shooting percentage (only Michigan State and Michigan allowed a lower shooting percentage from three).

[colonel06]

I’m sorry, I’m still having a hard time moving on from losing TWICE  to a 22-12 Penn State team in a ad hoc home venue for us!

What if anything, are the players saying? What do they think the problems were?  Why were we presenting such bewildered looks at times, etc?

[Alford Bailey]

28 minutes ago, colonel06 said:

I’m sorry, I’m still having a hard time moving on from losing TWICE  to a 22-12 Penn State team in a ad hoc home venue for us!

What if anything, are the players saying? What do they think the problems were?  Why were we presenting such bewildered looks at times, etc?

Outscored 78-12 from three in those two games.

[tomallenfan1]

IU is the one that shot themselves in the foot, but it is Purdue’s luck to face a 9 seed without one of its best players, a 13 seed on its 4th game in 4 days, and a 10 seed on its 4th game in 4 days for the BTT title.

[Ryno6284]

Hopefully the energy and effort from the last minute and a half or so from yesterday will carry over to the Big Dance!

[Alford Bailey]

Watch the post game pressers. Effort, lackadaisical, not giving effort for full 40 minutes are a common theme this year in the losses. Woody and the players readily admit this.

[go iu bb]

8 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Outscored 78-12 from three in those two games.

78-18. Brutal. IU has had no answer for their perimeter game.

Combined: PSU 26/54 = 48.1%

                     IU 6/28 = 21.4%

[go iu bb]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Watch the post game pressers. Effort, lackadaisical, not giving effort for full 40 minutes are a common theme this year in the losses. Woody and the players readily admit this.

They recognize this yet it still happens. smh

[TheWatShot]

18 minutes ago, tomallenfan1 said:

IU is the one that shot themselves in the foot, but it is Purdue’s luck to face a 9 seed without one of its best players, a 13 seed on its 4th game in 4 days, and a 10 seed on its 4th game in 4 days for the BTT title.

Several years ago they got to the final game by playing a 14 and a 10. They always seem to get breaks like this in the BTT. 

[IUFAN1976]

30 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Several years ago they got to the final game by playing a 14 and a 10. They always seem to get breaks like this in the BTT. 

They’ve gotten more breaks over the years than we have and have especially gotten their share and then some this year.  It seems the injury bug hit some other teams like it has us, but it hit us way more than any team, except Purdue.  They have not had any issues with injuries that I know of, except Gillis went down a few games earlier this year.   It appears they’ve gotten their share of breaks even from the injury bug.  I guess Houston’s best player is out with a groin injury 

[HoosierAloha]

haha such a purdoodoo way to backup their conference regular season championship by 3 games is to have the easiest path you could imagine with the 9 seed, 13 seed, and a 10 seed. I'm sure we would have won it with those opponents.

[HoosierHoopster]

45 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

78-18. Brutal. IU has had no answer for their perimeter game.

Combined: PSU 26/54 = 48.1%

                     IU 6/28 = 21.4%

It’s also rebounding. PSU out rebounded us, that’s pretty bad. Some were long 3’s but mostly we weren’t in good position to rebound, happened a bunch and it’s a recurring theme

[IUFAN1976]

44 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

They recognize this yet it still happens. smh

I know, perplexing!  The coach can’t play for them and it’s like the players can’t figure out how to change this issue themselves.  It’s something that’s been around since Archie Miller was the coach, I think it’s a carryover and mindset.  Although, half the battle is admitting you have a problem, it’s now or never, time to change the narrative 

[IUFAN1976]

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

It’s also rebounding. PSU out rebounded us, that’s pretty bad. Some were long 3’s but mostly we weren’t in good position to rebound, happened a bunch and it’s a recurring theme

Rebounding is effort and since their winning streak, pretty much every other game has been this lack of effort!