IUBB vs Purdue: 2/25 @7:30 on FOX

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2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

I don't see it. He plays with his hands on defense too much and when he attempts to use his body he makes it too obvious. He still needs to learn the Big 1.o defense of hands back and putting your body through the offensive player. Hopefully he'll come back next season with a better understanding and ability of how to do this.

That’s why Race starts and gets more minutes.  We haven’t really been hurt by Reneau’s foul problems when his role is 15 minutes per game

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2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

That’s why Race starts and gets more minutes.  We haven’t really been hurt by Reneau’s foul problems when his role is 15 minutes per game

Also, it feels like Race is progressing well after his sprain

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12 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

I didn't want the 4 seed in the Big 1.o tourney but that might be our best route to championship game. Although, they could end up the 2 seed if they keep playing the way they have been.

All about matchups.  I haven’t looked at the standings or possibilities but I do know the team I want to avoid is Michigan.

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11 hours ago, Southside said:

Disagree we are with 3 right now. We should win the last 2 games. But I agree we could end up be a 3 with a good showing in the B10 championship. We are 4-8 vs Q1 teams. Best ranked D1 team with 9 losses, so we are already fortunate. ESPN had us #5 before a WLW week. I'd say we are #4 now. 

The bracket expert on this board has us as a 3.  We take care of business at home next week which we will and make a run in the B10 and we are closer to 2 than 4. The committee likes us. We are absolutely no worse than 4 present time.

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1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Probably but not necessarily. He absolutely is a first rounder but he’s not a lottery guy (at this point).
Kind of like Cody’s frosh season - he came back despite a clear 1st round pick bc he could better his game and draft position (and he wanted to see what IU could do if he came back). 
Jalen has the benefit of Woodson’s direct feedback about his chances / likely playing time etc if he goes. That’s invaluable. He’ll test waters and get the pro feedback and then he’ll be able to work through it with Woodson’s NBA coaching exp and connections.
On top of that, unlike Cody etc, he’ll have good NIL money if he stays.

I personally think, bc of his several games of off play, the inconsistency, another year would do well to prepare him for the NBA grind and talent level. He has the game, but he can grow it to improve his position and with that a good chance to lengthen his NBA career.

If he goes though that will likely reflect he got strong feedback from both the NBA guys and Woodson. 

Completely different situations

His offensive ups and downs this season have little to do with where he'll be drafted. His measurables and potential have him safely in the first round and possibly a lottery pick. 

Where did Langford get drafted? 14th? A shooting guard that didn't show much in the shooting department.

JHS would be one hell of a sophomore. The chances of that happening is on par with Josh making the PGA tour.

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14 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Yessir, Yasir ... 
 

 

Does anybody know what they are chanting? What is Kopp holding up?

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Does anybody know what they are chanting? What is Kopp holding up?

“Walk in yo trap, take over yo trap”. A speaker was being held up.


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32 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Completely different situations

His offensive ups and downs this season have little to do with where he'll be drafted. His measurables and potential have him safely in the first round and possibly a lottery pick. 

Where did Langford get drafted? 14th? A shooting guard that didn't show much in the shooting department.

JHS would be one hell of a sophomore. The chances of that happening is on par with Josh making the PGA tour.

It’s not really. And look what happened to Romeo, that’s kind of the point. He’s not a lottery pick, at least now. Is he ready to grab floor time from current NBA guards? Is he a point or combo? What team has the need for him now, and what management is involved. It’s just not that simple 

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1 minute ago, HoosierHoopster said:

It’s not really. And look what happened to Romeo, that’s kind of the point. He’s not a lottery pick, at least now. Is he ready to grab floor time from current NBA guards? Is he a point or combo? What team has the need for him now, and what management is involved. It’s just not that simple 

Please tell me how the situations between Cody Zeller and JHS are the same.

Romeo is still playing in the NBA 4 (?) years later and has made quite a lot of money. JHS is a more complete player with just as much upside. There will be several teams willing to taking him in the first round and continue his development.

Stay in school making limited money while having to attend classes and such or go to the NBA where you make more, your life is about developing, and have access to world class coaches and staff to develop. Up top we both know the obvious choice, a foot lower and we both would love a sophomore year.

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Something that wasn't really discussed was how well we took care of the ball. We didn't have the turnovers for touchdowns that we had in previous road games. This will be extremely important in postseason games.

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28 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Please tell me how the situations between Cody Zeller and JHS are the same.

Romeo is still playing in the NBA 4 (?) years later and has made quite a lot of money. JHS is a more complete player with just as much upside. There will be several teams willing to taking him in the first round and continue his development.

Stay in school making limited money while having to attend classes and such or go to the NBA where you make more, your life is about developing, and have access to world class coaches and staff to develop. Up top we both know the obvious choice, a foot lower and we both would love a sophomore year.

Not sure what your struggle is. Cody was a sure fire first rounder, just outside the lottery. He came back to grow his game when he would have gone well in 1st round, he was much better for it hitting the League as a soph. Romeo is still in the NBA? I’m sorry, tell me how much he’s played? Tell me his trade history? Do you actually follow him, do you have any idea what he’s actually doing? Now compare Cody’s career, what he has made in comparison, what his role has been over his career? Cody is way better off.

I said “probably” but not necessarily to start this convo. There’s no question JHS is a lock for the first round. Training at the NBA level, against NBA comp, is better, hands down. But you have to consider (and he will) what team is saying they’ll draft him and where, what the roster(s) of that team it teams look like, who the management and coaching staff are (Romeo was in good shape getting drafted by the C’s, with Wonder boy coach at the time and excellent management, even though he couldn’t stay healthy and couldn’t beat out the level of comp in front if him and barely played and went D League they took care of him - many teams wouldn’t), etc. And the NIL money is big, it’s not chump change. I think JHS has the body, and the tools to make it in the League, but off or on ball, who are the guards on the team(s) who give him assurances? These aren’t questions he’ll just dismissively whiff on, he’ll look into them and with Woodson’s input. He was so good last night I lean to thinking he’s gone, but heard the same stuff with Cody

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1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said:

Completely different situations

His offensive ups and downs this season have little to do with where he'll be drafted. His measurables and potential have him safely in the first round and possibly a lottery pick. 

Where did Langford get drafted? 14th? A shooting guard that didn't show much in the shooting department.

JHS would be one hell of a sophomore. The chances of that happening is on par with Josh making the PGA tour.

I guess crazy things have happened before... Marcus Smart was a lottery pick after his first year at Oklahoma State and came back. 

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5 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Not sure what your struggle is. Cody was a sure fire first rounder, just outside the lottery. He came back to grow his game when he would have gone well in 1st round, he was much better for it hitting the League as a soph. Romeo is still in the NBA? I’m sorry, tell me how much he’s played? Tell me his trade history? Do you actually follow him, do you have any idea what he’s actually doing? Now compare Cody’s career, what he has made in comparison, what his role has been over his career? Cody is way better off.

I said “probably” but not necessarily to start this convo. There’s no question JHS is a lock for the first round. Training at the NBA level, against NBA comp, is better, hands down. But you have to consider (and he will) what team is saying they’ll draft him and where, what the roster(s) of that team it teams look like, who the management and coaching staff are (Romeo was in good shape getting drafted by the C’s, with Wonder boy coach at the time and excellent management, even though he couldn’t stay healthy and couldn’t beat out the level of comp in front if him and barely played and went D League they took care of him - many teams wouldn’t), etc. And the NIL money is big, it’s not chump change. I think JHS has the body, and the tools to make it in the League, but off or on ball, who are the guards on the team(s) who give him assurances? These aren’t questions he’ll just dismissively whiff on, he’ll look into them and with Woodson’s input. He was so good last night I lean to thinking he’s gone, but heard the same stuff with Cody

My struggle is seeing how the exception to the rule determines the rule. Cody is a rare example and there was more than just the skills there. The ties to Indiana, what he meant to IU, and what the program was going through at that time played a major role in him returning. JHS doesn't have those ties.

Dang, didn't know Romeo was injured again and he remains in the NBA despite those injuries. I guess he made the right choice leaving after one season. He has what NBA teams want and will be drafted in the first round, potentially lottery after this season.

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1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

My struggle is seeing how the exception to the rule determines the rule. Cody is a rare example and there was more than just the skills there. The ties to Indiana, what he meant to IU, and what the program was going through at that time played a major role in him returning. JHS doesn't have those ties.

Dang, didn't know Romeo was injured again and he remains in the NBA despite those injuries. I guess he made the right choice leaving after one season. He has what NBA teams want and will be drafted in the first round, potentially lottery after this season.

You sure like to argue, lol man. Yeah, Romeo’s situation is clearly much worse than Cody’s but you backpedal and spin your own argument. Ok. There are also plenty of examples like M Smart out there as well. Jalen will do what he thinks is best for his future— but he’ll do it on an informed basis, that’s a good thing, we’re talking about a lifetime career choice.

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After the win, did any of our players stomp on their mid court logo?  Or spit on it?  Or is that just Purdoo sportsmanship?

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55 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You sure like to argue, lol man. Yeah, Romeo’s situation is clearly much worse than Cody’s but you backpedal and spin your own argument. Ok. There are also plenty of examples like M Smart out there as well. Jalen will do what he thinks is best for his future— but he’ll do it on an informed basis, that’s a good thing, we’re talking about a lifetime career choice.

Glad I'm "arguing" with myself. There is no backpedaling here. As stated in my original post, JHS is gone to the NBA after this season. He will be drafted in the first round if not the lottery.

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8 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

Jalen The Broom Guy

Jalen sweep’um up, Martha mop up the mess. Pure gold. 

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NBA guys are loving JHS with the way he can play in the pick and roll, hit the mid range or get to the rim. Plays defense too.

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Just now watching the game. Malik's 4th foul was a joke.

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