Game Thread: vs. Northwestern 1/8/23 at Noon on FS1

[rcbowla]

Was busy doing some other things while I watched. One thought: IU is not good. On to the next.

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[pumpfake]

40 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Woodson has only had a 1.5 years.  Way too early for things like effort and not getting punked at home.  This stage is about making sure their shoes aren't laced too tight.

There is merit to this.  However, it's getting "W's" that count.  Woodson can't be doing things like keeping/playing guys solely out of loyalty or refusing transfers that would benefit the program (rumored). 

[Josh]

35 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Co-head coaches @Napleshoosier and @ALASKA HOOSIER
At least we wouldn't have to pay them as much. Toss in @Josh as the main recruiter for shits and gigs.

What's my recruiting budget?  I need to scout some far away lands.

[kreigh8]

5 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

There is merit to this.  However, it's getting "W's" that count.  Woodson can't be doing things like keeping/playing guys solely out of loyalty or refusing transfers that would benefit the program (rumored). 

Any actually player names to these rumors?

[Golfman25]

48 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

We have enough talent and good enough basketball players up and down the roster not to be laying turds all over the country.

Do we?  Ball don’t lie. 

[HoosierAloha]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Do we?  Ball don’t lie. 

Talent actually needs to be instructed, developed, coached, and led. Basketball talent is not the area we're lacking, especially against teams like Iowa and NW. That talent seems to arrive in Btown and then become really comfortable with just being and not getting better. That's where we are as a program.

[HoosierAloha]

7 minutes ago, Josh said:

What's my recruiting budget?  I need to scout some far away lands.

Depends, we getting some tee times?

[JSHoosier]

14 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

There is merit to this.  However, it's getting "W's" that count.  Woodson can't be doing things like keeping/playing guys solely out of loyalty or refusing transfers that would benefit the program (rumored). 

There shouldn't be any merit to what I posted.  Effort should be an absolute bare minimum from day 1, thinking it's optional should be totally unacceptable.

[Golfman25]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Talent actually needs to be instructed, developed, coached, and led. Basketball talent is not the area we're lacking, especially against teams like Iowa and NW. That talent seems to arrive in Btown and then become really comfortable with just being and not getting better. That's where we are as a program.

I get that.  And I just can’t believe for the second coach in a row they aren’t “coaching.”  I’m thinking the players aren’t getting it.  30 seconds into the game we had a player blow a defensive assignment for an easy score. Time and time again it’s happening.  Only thing left in my mind is the motivation of the bench, and yes I fault woody for that.  

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Do we?  Ball don’t lie. 

Matt Painter recruits guys we’d never want and somehow finds a way to get them to produce. I remember scoffing when @btownqb said we should recruit Braden Smith and now Painter has him starting/playing 29 mpg on the #1 team in the country. We regularly lose to teams with less ‘talent.’ Whatever happens to guys once they arrive at IU is beyond me. 

[JSHoosier]

A member of the 53 title team was in attendance.  I bet he loved seeing what this program has turned into.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I could be convinced that Archie put on a bodysuit of an old black man and actually just stayed. We never really fired him. 

[JSHoosier]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I could be convinced that Archie put on a bodysuit of an old black man and actually just stayed. We never really fired him. 

Did he grow too?

[HoosierAloha]

6 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I get that.  And I just can’t believe for the second coach in a row they aren’t “coaching.”  I’m thinking the players aren’t getting it.  30 seconds into the game we had a player blow a defensive assignment for an easy score. Time and time again it’s happening.  Only thing left in my mind is the motivation of the bench, and yes I fault woody for that.  

Sure it's more than just coaching. You have to recruit talent that wants to be coached, instructed, developed, and led. You have to surround them with similarly like-minded players. When your culture is part-time e and e we get the product we've seen in the recent past. Woody was supposed to change that. It doesn't take years to set a baseline.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Did he grow too?

Got some stilts inside the suit. 

[HoosierAloha]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Matt Painter recruits guys we’d never want and somehow finds a way to get them to produce. I remember scoffing when @btownqb said we should recruit Braden Smith and now Painter has him starting/playing 29 mpg on the #1 team in the country. We regularly lose to teams with less ‘talent.’ Whatever happens to guys once they arrive at IU is beyond me. 

They probably get exposed to the toxic fans. Let's not try to hold any of the people actually involved with this program accountable. That wouldn't make any sense. Definitely the fans on message boards.

[JSHoosier]

16 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Matt Painter recruits guys we’d never want and somehow finds a way to get them to produce. I remember scoffing when @btownqb said we should recruit Braden Smith and now Painter has him starting/playing 29 mpg on the #1 team in the country. We regularly lose to teams with less ‘talent.’ Whatever happens to guys once they arrive at IU is beyond me. 

I read Bob Knight once told Painter "you get the players I would've gotten".  About made me sick.

[Whoozhers]

JHS had a great scoring game. 6 TO’s were a killer. His first one …. The game wasn’t 10 secs old.He took the tip and promptly threw it RIGHT TO NW.

Set the tone for the game right outta the gate.

No Bueno

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

[JSHoosier]

9 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Some previous players calling this crap out.  Now if another certain previous player would do something about the team's lack of effort.

Someone should've apologized to the member of the 53 team, Burke Scott, for being subjected to this.