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They Fired Tom Allen!

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52 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

We sure Michigan and Ohio State both won't be looking for new coaches?

Fair question, but even if so those two would be searching in rarified air for their next guy, similar to A&M.  I doubt we would have any candidate overlap with them.  

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Statement from Dolson. 

Looks like CTA will get $15.5M. Since it seems to have been negotiated down, I would guess that's final -- regardless of future employment? 


BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Indiana University Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Scott Dolson announced on Sunday afternoon that head football coach Tom Allen will not return next season. A national search for Allen's successor will begin immediately.

"After continued evaluation of our entire football program, I have determined that we have lost momentum and that a change in leadership is necessary at this time. I want to thank Tom for all of the contributions he has made to IU in his seven years leading our program. His passion, character, and class made a positive impact on our student-athletes. We wish him well in his future endeavors."

The university and Allen have agreed on a financial settlement of two $7.75 million installments that will be paid through the department of athletics donor funds.

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"Tom Crean won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Crean fired. 

"Archie Miller won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Miller fired. 

"Tom Allen won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Allen fired. 

 

In the event that we someday find ourselves facing the possibility of needing to move on from yet another coach that IU has needlessly overpaid to insure against his own failure, let's think back to these scenarios and save ourselves dozens of posts on the idea that we're in some hopeless situation of waiting for a contract to run its course. Money is just an object. 

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9 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

"Tom Crean won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Crean fired. 

"Archie Miller won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Miller fired. 

"Tom Allen won't be fired, we can't afford the buyout." Allen fired. 

 

In the event that we someday find ourselves facing the possibility of needing to move on from yet another coach that IU has needlessly overpaid to insure against his own failure, let's think back to these scenarios and save ourselves dozens of posts on the idea that we're in some hopeless situation of waiting for a contract to run its course. Money is just an object. 

It’s all relative if he had somehow gotten a bowl game this year I think he still would have deserved firing but you can’t justify the 15 million.  

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Statement from Tom Allen:

It has been my greatest professional honor to serve as Indiana’s head football coach for the past seven years.  Representing this University and this State has meant more to me than you can imagine.  Our entire journey here has been based on a simple concept – Love.  Each.  Other.  It’s what we’ve done, it’s what we’ll always do.  I continue to believe it’s a recipe to change the world.  There have been so many incredible memories made and relationships formed.  I’ll always be grateful for the players, coaches and staff who believed in our vision and gave their heart and soul for this program. 
 
College football has changed dramatically over the past several years.  Some of those changes have been a shock to the conscience of those who support IU football.  The time has come to fully embrace those changes and I pray that IU does just that. 
 
To each and every player who put on the Crimson and Cream over the past 7 seasons, I love you, thank you and God bless. 
 
#LEO



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Statement from Tom Allen:

 

It has been my greatest professional honor to serve as Indiana’s head football coach for the past seven years.  Representing this University and this State has meant more to me than you can imagine.  Our entire journey here has been based on a simple concept – Love.  Each.  Other.  It’s what we’ve done, it’s what we’ll always do.  I continue to believe it’s a recipe to change the world.  There have been so many incredible memories made and relationships formed.  I’ll always be grateful for the players, coaches and staff who believed in our vision and gave their heart and soul for this program. 

 

College football has changed dramatically over the past several years.  Some of those changes have been a shock to the conscience of those who support IU football.  The time has come to fully embrace those changes and I pray that IU does just that. 

 

To each and every player who put on the Crimson and Cream over the past 7 seasons, I love you, thank you and God bless. 

 

#LEO

 

 

 

https://x.com/andy_staples/status/1728868160709730605?s=46

 

 

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I personally agree with him about LEO. He’s a wise man. The world needs more LEO mentality.

 

Also paragraph 2 is spot on. Except, same as basketball, the “cheating” schools have had it figured out for a long time and gained competitive advantages. Now those advantages can be minimized legally. Here’s to hoping IU wants to give their coaches the opportunity to compete on nearly level playing fields.

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, iubb said:

Statement from Tom Allen:

It has been my greatest professional honor to serve as Indiana’s head football coach for the past seven years.  Representing this University and this State has meant more to me than you can imagine.  Our entire journey here has been based on a simple concept – Love.  Each.  Other.  It’s what we’ve done, it’s what we’ll always do.  I continue to believe it’s a recipe to change the world.  There have been so many incredible memories made and relationships formed.  I’ll always be grateful for the players, coaches and staff who believed in our vision and gave their heart and soul for this program. 
 
College football has changed dramatically over the past several years.  Some of those changes have been a shock to the conscience of those who support IU football.  The time has come to fully embrace those changes and I pray that IU does just that. 
 
To each and every player who put on the Crimson and Cream over the past 7 seasons, I love you, thank you and God bless. 
 
#LEO



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More excuses and shifting of blame. Typical Allen. Buh-bye, I won't miss him.

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CBS Sports is reporting that Allen and IU settled on $15.5M buyout, with an escalated payout schedule.

"A long-term contract signed in 2020 made firing Allen difficult, however. Allen was due more than $20 million, trailing Jimbo Fisher and Gus Malzahn as the third-largest buyout in college football history. In a university statement announcing the firing, it was revealed the two sides had agreed to reduce the buyout to $15.5 million will Allen being paid in $7.75 million installments."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/indiana-fires-tom-allen-hoosiers-part-with-coach-as-sides-reach-settlement-on-reduced-buyout-figure/

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6 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I was at IU during the height of the Mallory Era. Man, that was a lot of fun. 

Dominating OSU for a two-year run. Beating them and Michgan in the same season. The shootout between Hartleib and Schnell in B-town. Destroying South Carolina in the Liberty Bowl. Watching AT run all over Memorial Stadium. 

Good times. 

And yet IU became a victim of short-term memory and let him go. Sometimes it isn't the coach, it is the school.

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3 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

CBS Sports is reporting that Allen and IU settled on $15.5M buyout, with an escalated payout schedule.

"A long-term contract signed in 2020 made firing Allen difficult, however. Allen was due more than $20 million, trailing Jimbo Fisher and Gus Malzahn as the third-largest buyout in college football history. In a university statement announcing the firing, it was revealed the two sides had agreed to reduce the buyout to $15.5 million will Allen being paid in $7.75 million installments."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/indiana-fires-tom-allen-hoosiers-part-with-coach-as-sides-reach-settlement-on-reduced-buyout-figure/

Fisher beat Malzahn in the 2014 national championship game. The other guy(Allen)  did not belong in this conversation.

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For the life of me, I just don't get it. Allen, good man, needed to go and it was all over social media that he needed to go with tons of comments agreeing with such. IU ponies up and my X feed is full of poor Allen or no I don't want certain players to transfer. Holy crap, I am glad this fan base has nothing to do with the hiring and firing of coaches or anything of that matter. Now if we could not shoot ourselves in the foot in this hiring, keep the buyout option a little more manageable, at least compete with the rest of the B1G, and maybe start to pack Memorial Stadium for games again, I swear there are people who want IU to get better and want to be fans of foosball. 

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23 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

For the life of me, I just don't get it. Allen, good man, needed to go and it was all over social media that he needed to go with tons of comments agreeing with such. IU ponies up and my X feed is full of poor Allen or no I don't want certain players to transfer. Holy crap, I am glad this fan base has nothing to do with the hiring and firing of coaches or anything of that matter. Now if we could not shoot ourselves in the foot in this hiring, keep the buyout option a little more manageable, at least compete with the rest of the B1G, and maybe start to pack Memorial Stadium for games again, I swear there are people who want IU to get better and want to be fans of foosball. 

X is literally just full of dudes who try to suck up to IU and try to shove rainbows and sunshine down everyone's throats about IU sports. I think they believe the university will include them in stuff like they have the Hoosier Hysterics, but like HH, are just incredibly annoying. SUPER FRAGILE. Pretty much all of them. I've been blocked by some. But they see everything IU does as amazing. Every player is amazing. Every coach is amazing and just needs time. It's bad.

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On 11/30/2023 at 12:36 PM, IUFootballEndlessMisery said:

Tom Allen is legit a candidate for defensive coordinator at USC.

If it means bringing down the Trojans, I say "do it"!

He’s a helluva defensive mind. I wouldn’t mind having him as a DC. 

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6 minutes ago, Naturalhoosier said:

He’s a helluva defensive mind. I wouldn’t mind having him as a DC. 

Is his buyout similar to Crean and Archie in that any future earnings offset buyout payments?  Because if so and we hired him as DC, would he have to work for free?  

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