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Class of '66 Old Fart

(2024) - PG Boogie Fland to Kentucky

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4 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

Yeah, not a fan of the "psych" move.  Truthfully, It  it was a punk move when Alexander did it.

I hear ya but without that one we wouldn’t have gotten the video of Illinois fans watching and thinking they got him and then slowly watching them realize what just happened.  My guess it was one of Hovas favorite things to watch.    I would post it but I’m pretty sure more than 2 F bombs were dropped.   

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2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I don't want to be in a position if having to hope for Spring every year.

Might have to get use to it.    Especially if teams continue to be successful doing it.   Arkansas offers everyone in the portal nowadays.   The traditional way of recruiting is basically over.   

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I don't want to be in a position of having to hope for Spring every year.
Not the strategy you want imo.Bottom line is we are going to have to start winning bigger and making sweet sixeteens to get multiple five stars each year. Look at Howard his recruiting was great at first now he can't get a five star.


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55 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Staff needs to figure out how to land players like this.  We could lose a lot after this season, so we have to hope for a very good Spring or next season could be brutal.

You mean last me JHS, MM, Reneau, Bates, Ware, Liam

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The hat trick is immature.  I’m sure Boogie is great and all, and he’s obviously young but also immature.  
 

clearly he is a slick, skilled, and confident kid.  But  Let’s get a gritty, mature kid and kick his butt in 2 years since he’s not gonna be one and done.  

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6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The hat trick is immature.  I’m sure Boogie is great and all, and he’s obviously young but also immature.  
 

clearly he is a slick, skilled, and confident kid.  But  Let’s get a gritty, mature kid and kick his butt in 2 years since he’s not gonna be one and done.  

He certainly could be a one and done.  You don't have to be ready for the league to get drafted in the league.  You just have to show that you could be a high level player some day.

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

He certainly could be a one and done.  You don't have to be ready for the league to get drafted in the league.  You just have to show that you could be a high level player some day.

One and done has been a thing for how long now? Since 2006? And some people still don't get it.

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I said yesterday that it would be disappointing to only land Liam in 2024. They need to do everything they can to land Derik Queen. I believe this staff did everything they could for Fland. I'm just wondering about not having a backup option. I am high on Gabe Cupps and Newton if he can stay healthy. It's just upsetting to have thoughts of a Top 5 freshman class and end up with maybe just one player. 

That being said...

1) I said this over the summer. As much as I wanted all 3 guys, I didn't want a starting lineup of 3-4 freshmen next year. I think two is enough. I no longer think you can win a National Title with one and dones. Next year is the last Covid year. There will still be some 24/25 year olds playing college basketball. 

2) I HAVE to think that IU is going to be a prime location for a Point Guard in the transfer portal. Here were some of the top PG's in the portal this spring: Max Abmas, Ryan Nembhard, Ace Baldwin, RayJ Dennis, Kerr Kiirsa. There are going to be some options for this staff this spring. Woodson was capable of landing Xavier Johnson. Remember, X chose IU have the the Champs (Baylor) and Final Four Team (Houston) in 2021. That was before he even coached a game here. He can point to JHS development. A big year from X will only help...

3) I think right now IU has three starters on the roster for next year...Trey at the 2, Liam at the 3, Malik at the 4, maybe 5 spot. Maybe Mackenzie comes back but that is TBD. Point Guard is going to be the #1 option. I like Sparks, but I have no idea if he can be a starting level big man at this level. I do think he can be a solid rotational piece. I also like Gabe Cupps. Add in a healthy Jakai Newton those aren't bad options. Let's see what CJ and Kaleb bring this year. 

EDIT 4) Last but not least, this program has to win. Period. They won't get too many more 5 star level players if they can't go any further in the NCAA Tournament. Woodson has done an incredible job of not making us a joke anymore. Next step, is to start winning B1G Championships and some deep March runs. 

Fland was the player I wanted most for this class. This miss flat out sucks because I know how bad this program and the fans wanted him. 

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