IU Scott Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team. I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was. I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot. I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter. JHS over RP Gunn over Stewart Reneau over Durr Banks over Lander I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost Quote
Stuhoo Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team. I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was. I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot. I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter. JHS over RP Gunn over Stewart Reneau over Durr Banks over Lander I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost Disagree. Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau. ;) ALASKA HOOSIER, IU Scott and go iu bb 3 Quote
Hovadipo Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. God-tier shooter. Pretty average maker. And kind of a turd. Stuhoo and go iu bb 2 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, IU Scott said: That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team. I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was. I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot. I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter. JHS over RP Gunn over Stewart Reneau over Durr Banks over Lander I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost You left out Bates, we'll have to wait and see (of course) what he does in the games but he was a strong HS shooter, the talk from staff and players is that he's shooting very well, his shot looked very good at HH, and I'd bank on him shooting and scoring at a significantly improved level this season. Also, JG can shoot and in big moments, I'd bank on his low 30's percentage getting up to the 35% or so range, and I'm hoping he shoots more, he nailed a number of big moment - clutch shots last season. Quote
go iu bb Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Disagree. Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau. ;) I'll have what you're having, it must be some great stuff.;) Stuhoo and Dave from Dayton 2 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: WE DID NOT LOSE OUR BEST SHOOTER TO THE PORTAL! (sorry to yell ... lol) Parker Stewart was our best shooter against sh!tty teams and/or teams with sh!tty defenses. He absolutely tore it up from 3pt against Louisiana U (6-7), Syracuse (6-12), Jackson State (3-6), and Minnesota (6-10). That's 21-35 in those games and 32-100 in all other games. And even that 32% is complimentary; he started 'okay' against decent teams and got worse. After mid-February is when he really sank - he was 6-29 from three in his last nine games at IU. Against good/very good teams he was largely a crappy, mediocre, frustrating outside shooter. X was so much better from deep against 'non-cupcake' schools it isn't even comparable! Hell, even Race was better from deep against non-cupcakes. Statistically he was our best shooter at 39.3% from 3 overall on the season and 36.3% from 3 during conference play. He also led the team in makes per game both overall and during conference play. If you want to break down individual games to make the argument that his numbers are flawed, sure, maybe there’s an argument there. But he led the team in both percentage and makes. IU shot 33.3% from 3 last year. Take Stewart out and that goes down to 31.6%. Xavier Johnson was left wide open on a ton of his 3s last season. Credit to him for making them, but it’s not really comparable. And even at your 32% figure, that puts Stewart as the 3rd best shooter on the team last season (unless you count Lander and Nate Childress). No matter how you slice it, we were a terrible outside shooting team last season and lost our leader in makes and percentage. Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, go iu bb said: I'll have what you're having, it must be some great stuff.;) @Stuhoo : go iu bb and Stuhoo 2 Quote
Honkyman Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting. There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness. Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture. thebigweave and Hoosierfan2017 2 Quote
Whoozhers Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Sorry off topic. Didn’t know where else to post/ask this > Does anybody have a way to contact Big10+? Phone number, email? I signed up so I can get the game tomorrow but it signed me up to Illinois-ING! I searched all over the net…. I couldn’t find a phone number nor email. Any help would be appreciated. Quote
IUFAN1976 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Honkyman said: There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness. Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture. I agree with IU Scott, how do we know 3 point shooting is their weakness! I know the opponent wasn’t good but they still had to knock down open shots and they did to the tune of 42%. A very, very small sample size but they did shoot it better than they have in most games last year! Quote
IU Scott Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said: You left out Bates, we'll have to wait and see (of course) what he does in the games but he was a strong HS shooter, the talk from staff and players is that he's shooting very well, his shot looked very good at HH, and I'd bank on him shooting and scoring at a significantly improved level this season. Also, JG can shoot and in big moments, I'd bank on his low 30's percentage getting up to the 35% or so range, and I'm hoping he shoots more, he nailed a number of big moment - clutch shots last season. You are correct and I believe he will have a breakout year HoosierHoopster 1 Quote
IU Scott Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Honkyman said: There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness. Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture. Gunn is a top 3 point shooter and Banks shot it well in high school Quote
rcbowla Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Sorry off topic. Didn’t know where else to post/ask this > Does anybody have a way to contact Big10+? Phone number, email? I signed up so I can get the game tomorrow but it signed me up to Illinois-ING! I searched all over the net…. I couldn’t find a phone number nor email. Any help would be appreciated. https://support.bigtenplus.com/hc/en-usTry thisSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Quote
HoosierAloha Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's Nobody..? Am I on an island here? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
J34 Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, HoosierAloha said: Nobody..? Am I on an island here? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Duh! Your name kinda gives it away! jepwatso, ALASKA HOOSIER, Joe_hoopsier and 4 others 2 5 Quote
Whoozhers Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, rcs29 said: https://support.bigtenplus.com/hc/en-us Try this Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk rsc29…. I looked high and low trying to find a way to contact them last night. I tried the link you provided this morning and BINGO! Got a live chat and the issue resolved. For some reason they don’t make it easy to contact them. Thanks to you… guess who’s watching the HOOSIERS tonight? ME!! GO HOOSIERS!! jepwatso, rcbowla, Joe_hoopsier and 1 other 4 Quote
Honkyman Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, IU Scott said: Gunn is a top 3 point shooter and Banks shot it well in high school Neither Gunn nor Banks seems to be among IU's top 9 rotation players. I hope Gunn gets playing time. He can definitely shoot it. The question with him is whether he is ready to play defense against teams like North Carolina, Kansas and against conference opponents. Banks was the last player to enter the game against Marion which suggests coaches don't believe he is ready yet. Quote
Honkyman Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 8 hours ago, HoosierAloha said: That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. You say last year has nothing to do with this year and then you cite last year performance in support of your position. ?? rcbowla, J34, Redcamaro and 4 others 6 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Honkyman said: You say last year has nothing to do with this year and then you cite last year performance in support of your position. ?? Weird.. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, J34 said: Duh! Your name kinda gives it away! Hoosier has nothing to do with an island unless there is a 20th alternate meaning for it? ALASKA HOOSIER and mamasa 2 Quote
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