IU Basketball News and Notes

[Stuhoo]

Let's get extremely high-quality individuals, and let's pay them within the rules as much as possible.

I'm a major fan of the attitude, personal presentation, and basketball team attitudes of Malik Reneau and Jalen Hood-Schifino, and I'm also a big fan of them getting as much NIL as possible while at IU.

That's "having our cake and eating it too" roster construction at its finest.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

TJD named pre-season B1G POY

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketballs-trayce-jackson-davis-named-big-ten-preseason-player-of-the-year/?fbclid=IwAR1wBQU1OMmDTVM0uaWZ30yjhMOyUsXSIDPtFFMsYrwHfjbXZPPLDu_Zu5k

[IUc2016]

 

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[bigrod]

34 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

 

.This is good. I think X needs a chip on his shoulder.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

I'm sure the omission of X is due in part to his in-season suspension and then the off-season incident.  Image the voters used vs. his actual play.  

[HoosierX]

47 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

 

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Seriously XJ almost doubled him up in points, rebounds, and assists in less minutes.

[Stuhoo]

17 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm sure the omission of X is due in part to his in-season suspension and then the off-season incident.  Image the voters used vs. his actual play.  

True that.

Chucky Hepburn had an outstanding freshman season. But a bigger slight over X? There's an incoming senior on the All B1G team that has not notably produced in three years,

Malik Hall:

                   GP    MIN    FG%    3P%    FT%    REB    AST  BLK  STL   PF    TO    PTS
2021-22    36    21.7    51.5    42.6    69.0    4.6    1.1    0.2    0.6    2.0    1.4    8.9
2020-21    28    17.5    48.9    36.4    69.5    4.2    1.3    0.2    0.4    1.2    0.9    5.0
2019-20    31    15.9    53.6    33.3    72.7    3.7    1.2    0.3    0.3    2.4    0.7    4.6

 

[HoosierHoops1]

Hall doesn't even compare favorably against Race, other than 3 pt %.

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Hall doesn't even compare favorably against Race, other than 3 pt %.

And unlike Chucky or Kris Murray, Hall has had three years to show out and hasn’t.

[Hovadipo]

Tyler Wahl is the far bigger surprise to me here. What does he even do? Hepburn is about all they have this year, so I see him going off. He was pretty dang good down the stretch last year when Davis came back to Earth. 
 

The main issue is that there isn’t very much talent in the B1G if Tyler Wahl and Malik Hall are preseason all-conference selections. 

[Stuhoo]

Well ****; sometimes we need to read the tea leaves and sometimes the tea leaves are spelled out into the clearest of clear conclusions.

In a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, IUBB released a practice video today in which there were exactly five players wearing red jerseys. And in a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, those five are your current IUBB starting lineup. They are: 

Trayce Jackson Davis 

Race Thompson 

Miller Kopp 

Jalen Hood Schifino, and

Xavier Johnson 

Other things to note;

Nice right hand finish + flex by TJD over Logan

A little glimpse of a much better form jumper by Gallo.

[HoosierX]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Well ****; sometimes we need to read the tea leaves and sometimes the tea leaves are spelled out into the clearest of clear conclusions.

In a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, IUBB released a practice video today in which there were exactly five players wearing red jerseys. And in a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, those five are your current IUBB starting lineup. They are: 

Trayce Jackson Davis 

Race Thompson 

Miller Kopp 

Jalen Hood Schifino, and

Xavier Johnson 

Other things to note;

Nice right hand finish + flex by TJD over Logan

A little glimpse of a much better form jumper by Gallo.

Is it a better jumper? His elbow is flaring pretty far out.

[go iu bb]

13 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Well ****; sometimes we need to read the tea leaves and sometimes the tea leaves are spelled out into the clearest of clear conclusions.

In a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, IUBB released a practice video today in which there were exactly five players wearing red jerseys. And in a full-on Bobby Knight repeat, those five are your current IUBB starting lineup. They are: 

Trayce Jackson Davis 

Race Thompson 

Miller Kopp 

Jalen Hood Schifino, and

Xavier Johnson 

Other things to note;

Nice right hand finish + flex by TJD over Logan

A little glimpse of a much better form jumper by Gallo.

Kopp. I was hoping for a different starter at the wing but I can't say I'm surprised. /sigh

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

15 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Kopp. I was hoping for a different starter at the wing but I can't say I'm surprised. /sigh

Early season starters aren't that big of deal to me.  I'm more interested in the starters over the last 1/3 of the season.

[Hoosierfan2017]

29 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Kopp. I was hoping for a different starter at the wing but I can't say I'm surprised. /sigh

Barring drastic improvements from last season, we don’t really have anyone else capable of starting at that spot. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

15 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Early season starters aren't that big of deal to me.  I'm more interested in the starters over the last 1/3 of the season.

Also, if Kopp plays his best he is the perfect compliment for the starters.  If he is guarded to the point you don’t sag off of him, and he hits open shots it will allow others to flourish.  
 

Now, if he tries making the athletic plays or forces he wasn’t at his best last year doing any of that. Maybe he can do it. But last year it almost always went bad when he tried.  
 

assuming JHS starts we need him and X to be a serious threat to make the open 3.  If neither of them are, we will need to get Bates extra minutes, which we will no matter what.  
 

The dream scenario for me is throughout the season Geronimo develops the wings skills we need and he can play the 3 at times and also spell Race at the 4 at times to get him a lot of minutes.  

Edited October 7, 2022 by WayneFleekHoosier

[Stuhoo]

19 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Early season starters aren't that big of deal to me.  I'm more interested in the starters over the last 1/3 of the season.

1. Woody seems to be extremely reticent to change his starting lineup. Even when he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn toward the end of last year Parker Stewart remained in the starting lineup.
2. I'm just as interested, or more interested in who finishes games as who starts them.
3. I like Kopp a lot better with JHS in the starting lineup. With two guards on the floor that can break down the defense and draw a defensive rotation, Kopp, who is arguably our best open shooter, should get more and better looks. Last year with Parker and Kopp in the lineup together, we were stagnant and only had X to initiate.
4. If Bates was in with the starters instead of Kopp our second unit would be really light on a guy who can initiate offense. If all goes well, I would expect Bates or Geronimo to finish games and get as many minutes as Kopp, or maybe more minutes.

And, as Wayne said so kindly, if last year's version of Miller freakn' Kopp re-appears, and ever tries to makes plays off of the bounce I will continue to scream "NOOOOOOOOO" at my tv.     :) 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

1. Woody seems to be extremely reticent to change his starting lineup. Even when he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn toward the end of last year Parker Stewart remained in the starting lineup.
2. I'm just as interested, or more interested in who finishes games as who starts them.
3. I like Kopp a lot better with JHS in the starting lineup. With two guards on the floor that can break down the defense and draw a defensive rotation, Kopp, who is arguably our best open shooter, should get more and better looks. Last year with Parker and Kopp in the lineup together, we were stagnant and only had X to initiate.
4. If Bates was in with the starters instead of Kopp our second unit would be really light on a guy who can initiate offense. If all goes well, I would expect Bates or Geronimo to finish games and get as many minutes as Kopp, or maybe more minutes.

Part 1 really bothered me.  Maybe we didn’t have better options. I guess we didn’t.  But Kopp and Parker together was rough on offense.  That’s why we played better with Galloway even though he can’t shoot. At least he provided movement on and off the ball.  Parker’s inability to drive the ball or even move anywhere on offense was a killer.  But Woody didn’t do much about that.  Frustrating. 
 

Now, the 1st unit, 2nd unit thing bothered me equally.  You have to mix and match based on EVERYTHING. Matchups, who is hot/cold, fouls, etc.  sometimes certain players might excel with starters or unlock a chemistry we never got a chance to really search for.  I pray he changes his subbing tactics. 

[vemmeistars]

If you listened to Kopp's zoom with the media yesterday, I think you would be optimistic about his usage/role. He stated that his job is to defend, rebound, and knock down open shots. I'm hoping he shoots closer to 40% than 35% from 3 this year, but doesn't average more than 20 minutes a game.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Thought experiment?  I don’t think Woody gets the credit he might deserve from college heads. Maybe he gets what he deserves.  But anyhow. 
 

imagine our roster with Izzo or Painter, do you think the preseason pub would be even greater?

 

I ask because I hear a lot of top 15 ceiling talk which is great and probably appropriate against a lot of stacked teams, but I also think this roster with a revered college coach would be top rung in the preseason discussion.  Thoughts?

Edited October 7, 2022 by WayneFleekHoosier