AKHoosier Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 21 hours ago, Alford Bailey said: Good analysis. My initial thoughts were people have fallen in love with the athleticism and expectations are gonna be unrealistic. Just don’t take him at the expense of other needs. We'll definitely need a big in 2024, no question about that. My hope is that we get a portal big for 23/24 season to pair with Reneau, and Bidunga stays in the 2024 class to continue developing. You could make the argument he'd develop better by reclassifying and practicing against college athletes, but that didn't work for Lander so it clearly doesn't work for everyone. lillurk and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 We'll definitely need a big in 2024, no question about that. My hope is that we get a portal big for 23/24 season to pair with Reneau, and Bidunga stays in the 2024 class to continue developing. You could make the argument he'd develop better by reclassifying and practicing against college athletes, but that didn't work for Lander so it clearly doesn't work for everyone.Lander wasn’t a development issue. It was a missed evaluation and ranking based on perceived gains. Bidunga is insanely productive and athletic. Bidunga staying 2024 would be great and fine, but he isn’t a similar case to Lander. Most of the time reclass concerns are based on physical skillsets and that won’t be the issue. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app lillurk, ALASKA HOOSIER and Stuhoo 3 Quote
AKHoosier Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Lander wasn’t a development issue. It was a missed evaluation and ranking based on perceived gains. Bidunga is insanely productive and athletic. Bidunga staying 2024 would be great and fine, but he isn’t a similar case to Lander. Most of the time reclass concerns are based on physical skillsets and that won’t be the issue. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Valid. It was never the correct path for Lander. Didn't Race Thompson do it too? Not sure how much it benefitted him either, but Flory is clearly miles ahead of both players so I guess no need to throw the baby out with the bath water. If we're looking to avoid taking a step back next year, I just don't think Bidunga solves that on his own. Great player and prospect, but I don't know if he negates the need for a portal big. I'd sure be excited though, don't get me wrong. Alford Bailey 1 Quote
lillurk Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 For what it’s worth, the track record of PGs reclassifying to get to college earlier is dire. Lander especially so, but Ashton Hagans at UK, Duke had a guy that then got forced out after a year and had a mediocre career at USC and some third school…someone looked at the reclass data and it’s rough for PGs, wish I could find the link. For other positions, on average it has not had a drastic negative impact if I recall correctly. Quote
Stuhoo Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 On the reclass topic, to me it also seems relevant as to the age of the kid reclassifying. Lander was a true/17 year old reclass, but many reclassification candidates are reclassifying back to their true year. Crimson and Cream, MemphisHoosier, Demo and 2 others 5 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 hours ago, AKHoosier said: We'll definitely need a big in 2024, no question about that. My hope is that we get a portal big for 23/24 season to pair with Reneau, and Bidunga stays in the 2024 class to continue developing. You could make the argument he'd develop better by reclassifying and practicing against college athletes, but that didn't work for Lander so it clearly doesn't work for everyone. He had 9 dunks in his last game but the competition is iffy a Kokomo. He would have to be brought along slow and you would definitely to bring in another big ready for this level. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 What is his game like outside of 2 feet from the basket? Alford Bailey 1 Quote
rayl456 Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 8 hours ago, MikeRoberts said: What is his game like outside of 2 feet from the basket? You mean shooting free throws?? Rico 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, rayl456 said: You mean shooting free throws?? I mean everything! All his videos are dunks/ally ops/putbacks Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said: I mean everything! All his videos are dunks/ally ops/putbacks I mean…. Do what you need to do. If he’s shooting midranges and 3s at this age then he’s Wenbeyama. A dominant, athletic, coordinated big guy with his abilities is worth his weight in NIL. Edited February 25, 2023 by WayneFleekHoosier taco corp, Hovadipo, thebigweave and 3 others 6 Quote
Rico Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Crimson and Cream said: Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Matt Painter was at the game. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said: I mean everything! All his videos are dunks/ally ops/putbacks He dominates against 6’2” white kids, is the #2 player in the class AND is currently projected to Cincinnati. Something is off here. ALASKA HOOSIER and lillurk 2 Quote
Rico Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: He dominates against 6’2” white kids, is the #2 player in the class AND is currently projected to Cincinnati. Something is off here. Oscar Robertson fan? Alford Bailey, ALASKA HOOSIER, thebigweave and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, Rico said: Matt Painter was at the game. Purdue definitely has a real shot here. Crimson and Cream, Rico and lillurk 2 1 Quote
rayl456 Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, Rico said: Oscar Robertson fan? Maybe Ron Bonham? Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said: He dominates against 6’2” white kids, is the #2 player in the class AND is currently projected to Cincinnati. Something is off here. He did his thing in AAU to fully skyrocket up the rankings against his peers. His play translates. What is off, is the connections that are needed to make it all happen appear to be complicated. ALASKA HOOSIER, Crimson and Cream, thebigweave and 3 others 6 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Purdue definitely has a real shot here. Yuck. That would be extra painful. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Honkyman Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said: AND is currently projected to Cincinnati. Something is off here. I would be surprised if he goes to Cincinnati. He may go to IU, he may go to Purdue or he wind up somewhere else, but in the end I predict he makes his decision on where he thinks he has the best chance of being developed to make the next step to the NBA. There is no reason to believe that program is Cincinnati. lillurk and Alford Bailey 2 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Rico said: Matt Painter was at the game. He's been at quite a few, it'll be a battle to the end for this kid. Quote
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