Game Thread: vs. St. John’s - 9:12 - FS1

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I just hope tonight's game isn't the beginning of the end... Seemed like under Archie, we'd have a great game against a good team like St. John's, Florida State or Marquette and then you just seen it all crumble. 

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I just hope tonight's game isn't the beginning of the end... Seemed like under Archie, we'd have a great game against a good team like St. John's, Florida State or Marquette and then you just seen it all crumble. 

Win or lose it is not that.

We've got three top 50 teams (SJU, Syr, ND) in our  non-con schedule. The odds of us dropping at least one of the three are pretty high.

[DWB]

37 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Win or lose it is not that.

We've got three top 50 teams (SJU, Syr, ND) in our  non-con schedule. The odds of us dropping at least one of the three are pretty high.

Try telling that to Trayce. I think he'd say: " You're full of (you know what)"

I've noticed a big change in his attitude, and I think he's selling it to the rest of the guys. And they're buying in. And I love the effort.

There's no reason we should drop one of these 3 games. If we keep playing D the way we have been, get a little better each game on offense, I think we'll be very tough to beat.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

48 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Win or lose it is not that.

We've got three top 50 teams (SJU, Syr, ND) in our  non-con schedule. The odds of us dropping at least one of the three are pretty high.

Syracuse would really be the most likely because it is on the road. Shouldn't lose to Notre Dame. No excuses there. Should win all 3. Have to win all 3 with having a fairly weak Mon conference schedule. 

[Stuhoo]

17 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Syracuse would really be the most likely because it is on the road. Shouldn't lose to Notre Dame. No excuses there. Should win all 3. Have to win all 3 with having a fairly weak Mon conference schedule. 

 

"There's no reason we should drop one of these 3 games' ... "Have to win all 3."  lol

I'd advise not setting up a standard where you're overwhelmingly likely to be disappointed. Losses to pretty good teams happen. If you think they shouldn't/don't, you risk becoming part of the UK 40-0 crowd mindset.

 

[Stuhoo]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Hovadipo]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Bad memories. 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Bad memories. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SJUBarstool/status/1461058514344939527
 

twitter getting nice and toxic lol

[coonhounds]

 
"There's no reason we should drop one of these 3 games' ... "Have to win all 3."  lol
I'd advise not setting up a standard where you're overwhelmingly likely to be disappointed. Losses to pretty good teams happen. If you think they shouldn't/don't, you risk becoming part of the UK 40-0 crowd mindset.
 

Lcs is right though. To get where mike woodson says he wants to get us we shouldn't lose any of the three. We might but we shouldn't lol. Of course we're going to lose but winning all of them needs to be the mindset and take the setbacks and move on better. When we were good 80s 90s I expected us to win every game. We need tobget back to that

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[CS2]

I think SJU is going to press and trap like it is there job.  Great experience for the team to face this pressure.

[CS2]

Heading down shortly.  Big Woods is on tap for pregame tonight if we can get a table.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

"There's no reason we should drop one of these 3 games' ... "Have to win all 3."  lol

I'd advise not setting up a standard where you're overwhelmingly likely to be disappointed. Losses to pretty good teams happen. If you think they shouldn't/don't, you risk becoming part of the UK 40-0 crowd mindset.

 

I'd consider Cuse and Notre Dame to be mediocre. We will find out more about us and St. John's tonight. 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I'd consider Cuse and Notre Dame to be mediocre. We will find out more about us and St. John's tonight. 

Syracuse on the road and ND on a neutral site are about as good as St. John's at Assembly Hall IMO.

It's anecdotal, but the '81 champs lost 5 non-con games, including to Texas Pan American. 

ALL D1 wins are hard to get. Losses happen, even with excellent teams.

[JHoosier914]

I'd consider Cuse and Notre Dame to be mediocre. We will find out more about us and St. John's tonight. 

Whether you’re an analytics guy or not, I don’t know, but Kenpom has both ND and CUSE directly behind us in his rankings. If they are mediocre, then so are we.

 

Edit: not directly, my apologies. We are 36, they are 38 and 39

 

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[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Syracuse on the road and ND on a neutral site are about as good as St. John's at Assembly Hall IMO.

It's anecdotal, but the '81 champs lost 5 non-con games, including to Texas Pan American. 

ALL D1 wins are hard to get. Losses happen, even with excellent teams.

Programs that have been in better shape then IU for decades lose to mediocre teams yearly.   It happens.   Of course you want the team you cheer for to win all of them but in this day in age that’s not going to happen.   

[coonhounds]

Programs that have been in better shape then IU for decades lose to mediocre teams yearly.   It happens.   Of course you want the team you cheer for to win all of them but in this day in age that’s not going to happen.   

But we sure as hell have room for improvement lol

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[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

But we sure as hell have room for improvement lol

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Sure.  You can still improve and lose games to teams like the ones mentioned 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

21 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Syracuse on the road and ND on a neutral site are about as good as St. John's at Assembly Hall IMO.

It's anecdotal, but the '81 champs lost 5 non-con games, including to Texas Pan American. 

ALL D1 wins are hard to get. Losses happen, even with excellent teams.

Beating Miss Valley State shouldn't be hard as a P5 team. Or you just really suck. 

[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Beating Miss Valley State shouldn't be hard as a P5 team. Or you just really suck. 

True! There is a limit to “the occasional loss is okay “ theory