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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

I thought we were coming off that hire. Oof.

If one believes the rumors that Dolson “had no choice” and was forced to hire Woodson then one could argue that it wasn’t that hire. But Dolson’s out of excuses at this point. Another dud of a hire will speak volumes on the seriousness of the program. 

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I suggest listening to Podcast on the Brink with @Mike Wiemuth (iuinphilly). Mike gave a very interesting detail on what NC coaches have in common. Look for a coach who has set an all-time wins record at a school. I don't remember how far back his research went but it was eye opening to say the least. Only one did not and that was Coach K because he couldn’t top Knight at Army. Mike also (my inference only) seemed to allude to Drew as being the best candidate we could hope to get and I agree.

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1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Haven't we seen this movie before (MDW)?

Yep. I feel the same way. 

While I think Brownell would be an upgrade over Woody -- nobody would be mentioning him in connection with IU if he weren't from Indiana. If he were from anywhere else, nobody would care. 

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If we end up with Brownell, I give up. That’s definitely not a plan B coach imo. 
That would be the program simply giving up honestly. St Johns will go out and hire pitino and we end up with bronwell. I mean it would be just another cruel joke. People would try to talk themselves into liking the hire just like with woodson but they would know it was a huge settle.

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58 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Of course he would, he's on TV right now.

That's my point. This job isn't (as) appealing to well-established coaches currently in a good and supporting environment. There's zero reason for somebody like Nate Oats or Bruce Pearl or even Dusty May to leave their current jobs for IU even though IU has more history. 

I'm telling you not to act surprised when IU hires either an up and comer from the lower ranks or a "mediocre P5 coach".

Does somebody have a case of the Mondays, AH1971? 

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Yep. I feel the same way. 
While I think Brownell would be an upgrade over Woody -- nobody would be mentioning him in connection with IU if he weren't from Indiana. If he were from anywhere else, nobody would care. 
Not sure he is even an upgrade. If you don't count this year his conference record is 128-126. That really no better than woodson

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24 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

I suggest listening to Podcast on the Brink with @Mike Wiemuth (iuinphilly). Mike gave a very interesting detail on what NC coaches have in common. Look for a coach who has set an all-time wins record at a school. I don't remember how far back his research went but it was eye opening to say the least. Only one did not and that was Coach K because he couldn’t top Knight at Army. Mike also (my inference only) seemed to allude to Drew as being the best candidate we could hope to get and I agree.

I second this…good podcast listen

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20 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

I suggest listening to Podcast on the Brink with @Mike Wiemuth (iuinphilly). Mike gave a very interesting detail on what NC coaches have in common. Look for a coach who has set an all-time wins record at a school. I don't remember how far back his research went but it was eye opening to say the least. Only one did not and that was Coach K because he couldn’t top Knight at Army. Mike also (my inference only) seemed to allude to Drew as being the best candidate we could hope to get and I agree.

We went over this stat a few hundred pages back. 
 

Under this stat, Brad Brownell qualifies. Lots of small school coaches who couldn’t hack it in the big times would.  
 

I **kind of** like it as an “eliminator” stat, but it isn’t dispositive.  Under this stat you would have eliminated Coach K (the most prolific coach since Wooden) and Hurley and possibly Roy Williams (depending on your stance on ties). That’s a whole lot of championships missed to put a lot of weight in that heuristic.  
 

The stat kind of just tells you something you already know to be true: great coaches at the highest level were also really good coaches at a lower level. 

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