General Coach Candidate News

[Demo]

45 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My problem with him is he had a few rough years at Michigan in the beginning. What if it takes him a few years to get IU going as it did with Michigan. Then he's in his 70's coaching IU to get into the tourney. I'm just hoping for someone younger so we have our coach for the next so many years. 

Yeah, I love Beilein. The man’s as good as it gets. But if you’re hiring him, you’re doing so with a succession plan already in place. So let’s just get this out of the way right now:

John Beilein plus Jordan Hulls.

Tell me Hulls after sitting next to Beilein for 5 years wouldn’t be ready to roll.

[Josh]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Current consensus?

1. We would reach out to Stevens and get turned down.
2. Put out feelers to Musselman, Matta, Beilein and Drew.and then
3. Set up a blue ribbon interview panel for those in line 2 that were interested, Fife, Nored, Shrewsbury, maybe Alexander or C Smith

• Blue ribbon BTB interview Panel?

1. Treesh cause if we didn't we'd never hear the end of it
2. Usps and Demo (for sanity and substantive expertise)
3. Josh (for identifying those who drink and make bad decisions)
4. Chris for IU connections
5. Feathery cause there's nothing better than being feathery
6. Old Fart and cthomas for context, and 
7. Troy's mother because, what the hell that'd be funny

 

Awesome.  What's our budget?

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Awesome.  What's our budget?

 

Budget equal to the annual pay of all BtownBanners moderators. oh, and it's BYOB.

 

[Josh]

7 minutes ago, Demo said:

Yeah, I love Beilein. The man’s as good as it gets. But if you’re hiring him, you’re doing so with a succession plan already in place. So let’s just get this out of the way right now:

John Beilein plus Jordan Hulls.

Tell me Hulls after sitting next to Beilein for 5 years wouldn’t be ready to roll.

Hulls?  Pass.  Say AJ Guyton and I'm in

[Chris007]

This is not what I want but the latest info was Thad Matta with Michael Lewis as associate head coach, Drew Adams as an assistant, and then get someone with some diversity to fill out the staff. Matta would have to show he is healthy. From what I've heard he has trouble sitting through the Butler games that he attends. 

[JSHoosier]

Just now, Chris007 said:

This is not what I want but the latest info was Thad Matta with Michael Lewis as associate head coach, Drew Adams as an assistant, and then get someone with some diversity to fill out the staff. Matta would have to show he is healthy. From what I've heard he has trouble sitting through the Butler games that he attends. 

If healthy, I wouldn't be opposed.  May be a big if though.

[Trish]

12 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Current consensus?

1. We would reach out to Stevens and get turned down.
2. Put out feelers to Musselman, Matta, Beilein and Drew.and then
3. Set up a blue ribbon interview panel for those in line 2 that were interested, Fife, Nored, Shrewsbury, maybe Alexander or C Smith

• Blue ribbon BTB interview Panel?

1. Treesh cause if we didn't we'd never hear the end of it
2. rcs because someone's gotta want to organize this ****
3. Usps and Demo (for sanity and substantive expertise)
4. Josh (for identifying those who drink and make bad decisions)
5. Chris for IU connections
6. Feathery cause there's nothing better than being feathery
7. Old Fart and cthomas for context, and 
8. Troy's mother because, what the hell that'd be funny

 

I'll meet you all at Buffalouis at 7PM tonight!

Also, Mussleman is CTC 2.0. I'm fully convinced of this. 

[rcbowla]

Coach Team Age Salary Buyout

 

John Beilein NA 68 NA NA

Brad Stevens Celtics 44 $3.7?? NA

Billy Donovan Bulls 55 $6 NA

Thad Matta NA 53 NA NA

Casey Alexander Belmont 48 $800k NA

Ed Cooley Providence 51 $3.5 NA

Leona. Hamilton FL St. 72 $2.3 $0

Chris Beard TX Tech 48 $4.6 $3m

Nate Oats Bama 46 $3.3 $12.6m

Dane Fife MSU Asst 41 $265k NA

Steve Alford Nevada 56 $500k $4-6m

Scott Drew Baylor 50 $3.3 NA

Dana Altman Oregon 62 $3.5 $3m

Mark Jackson Broadcast 55 NA NA

Bruce Pearl Auburn 60 $4 $12m

Rick Pitino Iona 68 $1.1 NA

Mark Pope BYU 48 NA NA

Mick Cronin UCLA 49 $3.4 $15.4m

Randy Wittman NA 61 NA NA

Mike Woodson Knicks Ast 62 NA NA

Michael Lewis UCLA Ast 44 $250k NA

John Calipari Kentucky 62 $8.5 $60m?

Travis Steele Xavier 39 NA NA

Kelvin Sampson Houston 65 $3 $12m

Greg Tonagel IWU NA NA NA

Calbert Cheaney Pacers Ast 49 NA NA

Tony Bennett Virginia 51 $5.2 $18m

Ronald Nored Hornets Ast 31 NA NA

Lon Kruger Oklahoma 68 $3.3 $2.9m

Darian Devries Drake 45 NA NA

Micah Shrewsber Purdue Ast 44 NA NA

Porter Moser Loyola 52 NA NA

Eric Musselman Arkansas 56 $2.6 $1.5m

Rick Barnes Tennessee 66 $5.3 $5m

Craig Smith Utah St. 48 $800k

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[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, rcs29 said:

Coach Team Age Salary Buyout

John Beilein NA 68 NA NA
Brad Stevens Celtics 44 $3.7?? NA
Billy Donovan Bulls 55 $6 NA
Thad Matta NA 53 NA NA
Casey Alexander Belmont 48 $800k NA
Ed Cooley Providence 51 $3.5 NA
Leona. Hamilton FL St. 72 $2.3 $0
Chris Beard TX Tech 48 $4.6 $3m
Nate Oats Bama 46 $3.3 $12.6m
Dane Fife MSU Asst 41 $265k NA
Steve Alford Nevada 56 $500k $4-6m
Scott Drew Baylor 50 $3.3 NA
Dana Altman Oregon 62 $3.5 $3m
Mark Jackson Broadcast 55 NA NA
Bruce Pearl Auburn 60 $4 $12m
Rick Pitino Iona 68 $1.1 NA
Mark Pope BYU 48 NA NA
Mick Cronin UCLA 49 $3.4 $15.4m
Randy Wittman NA 61 NA NA
Mike Woodson Knicks Ast 62 NA NA
Michael Lewis UCLA Ast 44 $250k NA
John Calipari Kentucky 62 $8.5 $60m?
Travis Steele Xavier 39 NA NA
Kelvin Sampson Houston 65 $3 $12m
Greg Tonagel IWU NA NA NA
Calbert Cheaney Pacers Ast 49 NA NA
Tony Bennett Virginia 51 $5.2 $18m
Ronald Nored Hornets Ast 31 NA NA
Lon Kruger Oklahoma 68 $3.3 $2.9m
Darian Devries Drake 45 NA NA
Micah Shrewsber Purdue Ast 44 NA NA
Porter Moser Loyola 52 NA NA
Eric Musselman Arkansas 56 $2.6 $1.5m
Rick Barnes Tennessee 66 $5.3 $5m
Craig Smith Utah St. 48 $800k
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HOLY CRAP THIS LIST IS AWESOME BAYBEEEEE!!!!

 

 

[LamarCheeks]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is not what I want but the latest info was Thad Matta with Michael Lewis as associate head coach, Drew Adams as an assistant, and then get someone with some diversity to fill out the staff. Matta would have to show he is healthy. From what I've heard he has trouble sitting through the Butler games that he attends. 

I initially was a big Thad Matta advocate -- obviously with the caveat that he's healthy. I thought after a few years away, he'd get recharged, get healthy and be ready for another run at coaching. But I'm really starting to cool to that idea. Seems as if he was essentially the victim of a botched back surgery. In reading about some of his troubles he had a few years back -- he could barley walk, he couldn't sit through a game, couldn't take his shoes or pants off after a game. Just doesn't seem as if he's recovered -- or recovered enough to be the top-notch coach he was before all this happened. I'm really cooling to him as a possibility. 

[rcbowla]

I learned that by looking at some of the buyouts you can eliminate a lot of these guys. The universities clearly didn't want poachers. I also learned that most buyouts are technically the coach's debt and not the poaching university's which I found interesting. I'm sure that's a moot point through negotiations but still interesting.

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[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is not what I want but the latest info was Thad Matta with Michael Lewis as associate head coach, Drew Adams as an assistant, and then get someone with some diversity to fill out the staff. Matta would have to show he is healthy. From what I've heard he has trouble sitting through the Butler games that he attends. 

 

That may be good job preparation; I currently have trouble sitting through IU games.

 

[Josh]

12 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'll meet you all at Buffalouis at 7PM tonight!

Also, Mussleman is CTC 2.0. I'm fully convinced of this. 

I'm not allowed in Buffalouies anymore.  Let's do Night Moves

[Trish]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

I'm not allowed in Buffalouies anymore.  Let's do Night Moves

Night Moves has a brand new facility, just a little further down Walnut. 

I think they do specials on Monday night.. 

[Josh]

19 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Coach Team Age Salary Buyout

John Beilein NA 68 NA NA
Brad Stevens Celtics 44 $3.7?? NA
Billy Donovan Bulls 55 $6 NA
Thad Matta NA 53 NA NA
Casey Alexander Belmont 48 $800k NA
Ed Cooley Providence 51 $3.5 NA
Leona. Hamilton FL St. 72 $2.3 $0
Chris Beard TX Tech 48 $4.6 $3m
Nate Oats Bama 46 $3.3 $12.6m
Dane Fife MSU Asst 41 $265k NA
Steve Alford Nevada 56 $500k $4-6m
Scott Drew Baylor 50 $3.3 NA
Dana Altman Oregon 62 $3.5 $3m
Mark Jackson Broadcast 55 NA NA
Bruce Pearl Auburn 60 $4 $12m
Rick Pitino Iona 68 $1.1 NA
Mark Pope BYU 48 NA NA
Mick Cronin UCLA 49 $3.4 $15.4m
Randy Wittman NA 61 NA NA
Mike Woodson Knicks Ast 62 NA NA
Michael Lewis UCLA Ast 44 $250k NA
John Calipari Kentucky 62 $8.5 $60m?
Travis Steele Xavier 39 NA NA
Kelvin Sampson Houston 65 $3 $12m
Greg Tonagel IWU NA NA NA
Calbert Cheaney Pacers Ast 49 NA NA
Tony Bennett Virginia 51 $5.2 $18m
Ronald Nored Hornets Ast 31 NA NA
Lon Kruger Oklahoma 68 $3.3 $2.9m
Darian Devries Drake 45 NA NA
Micah Shrewsber Purdue Ast 44 NA NA
Porter Moser Loyola 52 NA NA
Eric Musselman Arkansas 56 $2.6 $1.5m
Rick Barnes Tennessee 66 $5.3 $5m
Craig Smith Utah St. 48 $800k
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Calipari $60M buyout lol

[finky]

I'm going to step out on a sturdy limb and say Beilein will be the next IU Coach.  We all know that isn't a long term solution, but, I think 4-8 years with John at the helm with the understanding succession will be sooner and not later and allow the program along with Beilein's help to plan for that isn't a bad thing..at all.  I think this would excite the base and give us one of the best X's and O'x guys around...guy can flat out Coach and minus his stint in Cleveland all he has ever had is success.   This is a low risk move for the Trustee's to approve.  Success everywhere, stand up guy and his past players love him.

[rcbowla]

Calipari $60M buyout lol

That's if he leaves. Not certain what it is if Kentucky fires him but yeah......freaking crazy

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[Josh]

4 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

That's if he leaves. Not certain what it is if Kentucky fires him but yeah......freaking crazy

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So all that talk about him going to the NBA ain't gonna happen.  He's trapped there forever

[lillurk]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Me, in 5 full seasons so far he's done less than Miller had when we hired him.

 

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

It should be noted that Nate Oats is probably eliminated from the running, his buy-out number is $12.5 million dollars

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2021/02/details-on-nate-oats-new-19-million-contract-buyout-structure.html

 

 

This is true if you value NCAA tournament success over everything else.
 

But Oats has won three conference tournaments to zero for Archie, this is going to be his third year winning his conference regular season vs. one plus a split for Archie, and team ranks in computer numbers heavily favor Oats.

[Trish]

All this could be avoid if you guys would penny up your life savings and offer it to Brad Stevens including each of your possessions (cars, expensive fine jewelry,  your homes)

Take one for the team, guys!