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****, pay Painter to come in.  Offer him one pork chop more than Purdue can pay. 

[Stuhoo 76,372]

3 hours ago, Josh said:

Only two years as a head coach at a place that's confused whether Cleveland is a city or a state...defend your pick sir.

He’s only 41. Graduated from Cal Berkeley in three years as an academic All-American.

Leonard Hamilton was never thought to be a good coach...until he got Dennis Gates.

Leonard Hamilton didn’t attract 5 stars, until Dennis Gates brought them in.

Dennis Gates took over a team that was sooooo bad, he was conference coach of the year, while going 11-21, 7-11 in conference.

He followed that by going 17-7, 16-4 in conference this year.

He is smart, relates to the kids, is a badass recruiter, and exudes leadership in every imaginable way.

He’s also smart enough to have brought an old grey haired basketball lifer along as his assistant. That guy’s name? Dickey Nut. That IU could have Peter Jurkin followed by Dickey Nut in ten years should be enough in itself.

 

 

[ap2345 7,099]

@Chris007 I’d take Chris Mack. He’s a good coach and a good recruiter. I find it interesting that he’d be the one to reach out to IU though when it’s been said that UL was his dream job. Then again there’s always the chance of stuff going on behind the scenes at UL that he doesn’t want to be a part of. 

[Alford Bailey 12,280]

I could get behind Chris Mack.

[Stuhoo 76,372]

I like Mack a lot.

I like Enfield...plenty enough.

I do not like Scott Drew.

I have trouble spelling “Belien” (?) and he is way too old. 
 

[Stuhoo 76,372]

15 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

@Chris007 I’d take Chris Mack. He’s a good coach and a good recruiter. I find it interesting that he’d be the one to reach out to IU though when it’s been said that UL was his dream job. Then again there’s always the chance of stuff going on behind the scenes at UL that he doesn’t want to be a part of. 

Louisville is still on probation for its 2015 escort scandal, which forced the school into vacating 123 wins including the 2013 national championship. The Cardinals self-imposed a one-year postseason ban as a result, along with taking a reduction in scholarships and recruiting restrictions. Because of that, the university finds itself in a tough spot regarding potential punishment, the severity of which will depend on whether the NCAA's Committee on Infractions determines if the Level I violation is found to be aggravated, standard or mitigated. An aggravated violation could include a one- to five-year postseason ban. A standard violation could mean a one or two-year postseason ban.”

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Just now, Stuhoo said:

Louisville is still on probation for its 2015 escort scandal, which forced the school into vacating 123 wins including the 2013 national championship. The Cardinals self-imposed a one-year postseason ban as a result, along with taking a reduction in scholarships and recruiting restrictions. Because of that, the university finds itself in a tough spot regarding potential punishment, the severity of which will depend on whether the NCAA's Committee on Infractions determines if the Level I violation is found to be aggravated, standard or mitigated. An aggravated violation could include a one- to five-year postseason ban. A standard violation could mean a one or two-year postseason ban.”

I was wondering  if maybe that was the reason he wanted to get out if he could.

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

9 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

In his 4th year without a tourney appearance or even a winning conference record.  Some "lack of patience" or whatever other nonsense isn't the problem; do that at puke and you wouldn't get to 4 years.

If we want to get back we have to start having and holding expectations, we have to expect to win and not consider making a 68 team field some sort of accomplishment.

People who praised the hire were calling for his head in year 2 and 3. I don’t like Archie. Hated the hire. Just saying the optics to outsiders don’t look good.

Also I’d bet that IU waits another year for the 50% off sale.

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

10 hours ago, DChoosier said:

What’s your definition of “win immediately”. It’s year 4 and we are in 10th place, have not had better than a .500 conference record and this, the 4th year, is his worst conference record yet (albeit.....the BT is brutal this year). We have the same, same, same issues we had 4 years ago and rather than the fan base having “NO patience”, as you wrote, I think there has been a fair amount of patience considering the lack of progress,

To be fair, brutal isn’t the word. It’s the toughest schedule in the history of Indiana Basketball. 

Are there any other ‘blue blood’ programs that have had as many coaching changes as IU? Maybe it’s time to move on, but the optics look horrible. Especially to local recruits.

It’s more feasible that IU waits another year and gets 50% off. Guess we’ll see. 

 

 

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

10 hours ago, 8bucks said:

10 hours ago, 8bucks said:

Don’t fall for the “need to win immediately” story. It is the furthest thing from truth otherwise we would have had this discussion in year 1.   

It was happening in year 2 and 3.

[JSHoosier 19,645]

36 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

People who praised the hire were calling for his head in year 2 and 3. I don’t like Archie. Hated the hire. Just saying the optics to outsiders don’t look good.

Also I’d bet that IU waits another year for the 50% off sale.

They shouldn't, the list of candidates will be the same.

[Golfman25 4,831]

43 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

To be fair, brutal isn’t the word. It’s the toughest schedule in the history of Indiana Basketball. 

Are there any other ‘blue blood’ programs that have had as many coaching changes as IU? Maybe it’s time to move on, but the optics look horrible. Especially to local recruits.

It’s more feasible that IU waits another year and gets 50% off. Guess we’ll see. 

 

 

You know what looks worse?  The TV graphic showing that IU hasn't beaten Purdue since 2016.  

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

6 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

You know what looks worse?  The TV graphic showing that IU hasn't beaten Purdue since 2016.  

Yeah that looks pretty bad.. not really playing a ‘what’s worse’ game here. Just offering a different opinion. 

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57 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

To be fair, brutal isn’t the word. It’s the toughest schedule in the history of Indiana Basketball. 

Are there any other ‘blue blood’ programs that have had as many coaching changes as IU? Maybe it’s time to move on, but the optics look horrible. Especially to local recruits.

It’s more feasible that IU waits another year and gets 50% off. Guess we’ll see. 

 

 

It's the toughest schedule only relative to this seasons competition. 

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

It's the toughest schedule only relative to this seasons competition. 

Correct. I guess I should say toughest SOS in the history of IU basketball. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,311]

Just now, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Correct. I guess I should say toughest SOS in the history of IU basketball. 

Which literally means nothing if you lose. 

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Which literally means nothing if you lose. 

Eh.. It doesn’t ‘literally’ mean nothing. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,311]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Eh.. It doesn’t ‘literally’ mean nothing. 

No it does. Losers lose. Nebraska, Penn State, Northwestern, Minnesota, Indiana... Losers. 

 

[Feathery 4,003]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

People who praised the hire were calling for his head in year 2 and 3. I don’t like Archie. Hated the hire. Just saying the optics to outsiders don’t look good.

Also I’d bet that IU waits another year for the 50% off sale.

To be fair to those who called for his head after year 2 and 3, they were right in that he isn’t the guy for the job. I will give any coach until year 4. It was clear he isn’t the guy this year but those clamoring for it to happen sooner were just ahead of the curve. 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/03/12/the-most-valuable-college-basketball-teams/amp/

I wanted to share this article I remembered, from about 2 years ago. Maybe someone else has an interest in this as well, but every time I think about IU taking the “cheap” way out, compared to what we could pay a coach, I get annoyed. Maybe this has changed a lot in 2 years, and if so, maybe someone could share an update. My point is that IU is 3rd on this list regarding revenue the men’s bball team brings in. I averaged the salaries of the top 10 coaches on that list and came up with $4.7 million/annually. If you average the top 5? It’s $6.5 million. It just confirms what others have said before- we’re a top-tier program when it comes to $$$, but we don’t actually pay the coach like it. It’s easy for me to say that Dolson should throw top money at someone (like Stevens), but to me, this says it should be feasible. Come on, Scott. Do it for the glory of old IU!


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