General Coach Candidate News

[lillurk]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I’m less concerned with “run to the portal.” Some coaches that haven’t needed to do that  would and could do that at IU.

I found it fascinating that we are looking at a guy who can create a culture, and who has supreme self-confidence.

To me? That makes Collins, Drew, Devries less likely, and makes Wade and McCollum more likely than one might have thought.

We’ve talked about Collins a bit, but I would like to add we should bring his defensive assistant, Lowery, if it’s him.

[jimsorgi]

To state it differently: no coaches with McCollum's background have succeeded OR failed at IU's level. Absolutely inherent risk in that. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Listen…with regard to McCollum…if you have your first 8-9 coaching candidates say no (which won’t happen) then call him…but he shouldn’t be on anyone’s top 5

I’m taking a Chris Collins or even a Brad Brownell before I’m taking a McCollum. 

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Listen…with regard to McCollum…if you have your first 8-9 coaching candidates say no (which won’t happen) then call him…but he shouldn’t be on anyone’s top 5

I disagree. While his resume is not top ten candidate worthy, if we are researching him, interview him, and think he’s truly uniquely special? Then he immediately becomes a top tier option.

[Scotty R]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Those schools situations are different. UK, UNC, Duke all hired former successful players. Syracuse and Villanova hired coaches that were hand picked to be the next coach from their legendary predecessor coaches where they were loyal assistants to them. McCollum isn’t a former player of Indiana nor was or will he be hand picked by Bob Knight (RIP).

UL hired Pat Kelcey who was a gamble. So far so good…but Kelcey had far more experience at D1 than McCollum. 

All I am saying that those top power 4 coaches are more than likely not leaving their current job. I just think all of these rumors are going to get some of you upset because we probably are not going to get a top coach from a power conference.

Stevens very, very doubtful 

May No

TJO doubtful 

Drew doubtful 

Wright No

Bennett No

Few very, very doubtful 

After this who do you really think that a realistic candidate. Like I have said I would take my chances in McCollum over Beard

[jimsorgi]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m taking a Chris Collins or even a Brad Brownell before I’m taking a McCollum. 

I'd gamble on the upside of McCollum, but I totally understand this perspective. 

[hoosierssf457]

2 minutes ago, BehindTheBench said:

Hung upside down in the frame?

Probably prefers this instead

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There isn’t a “uniquely Indiana” culture. The Indiana culture was really just Bob Knight culture. The past 25 years have shown that IU is just another school without Knight. So, if you want to bring back that culture, bring back a coach with a Bob Knight mentality.

Not saying that’s the perfect move to make, but that’s Beard. 

Bob Knight didn’t work at Indiana after 1993. He wouldn’t work here today. It’s 2025. Hanging on to Bob Knight culture has been part of the problem at times. Many coaches have connections to Bob knight and have failed: Mike Woodson, Randy Wittman, Isiah Thomas, Pat Knight, etc. maybe it was just that Bob knight was a basketball genius in the 70s and 80s.

[Scotty R]

14 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Beard 

I doubt he brings the kind of Culture IU is looking for

[Hoosier987]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I disagree. While his resume is not top ten candidate worthy, if we are researching him, interview him, and think he’s truly uniquely special? Then he immediately becomes a top tier option.

That’s up to Scott Dolson to decide. I don’t think it will come to the point of a McCollum hire.

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, jimsorgi said:

I'd gamble on the upside of McCollum, but I totally understand this perspective. 

I can understand this take, it’s a gamble. I’m not convinced he can be a CEO as much as a basketball coach though. Indiana requires that, and I’d like proof first.

[Ryno6284]

Scott is going to make Wade a strong a$$ offer!

[Stuhoo]

16 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

I'd gamble on the upside of McCollum, but I totally understand this perspective. 

I’d say it differently. Gotta trust the very smart people who have complete access and insight into the process.

Dolson is a very talented and experienced basketball guy.

So while I don’t think it’ll be Beard, if it is? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his personal issues.

If it’s Wade? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his NCAA issues.

If it’s McCollum? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his D1 inexperience issues.

[jimsorgi]

Just now, PartyintheVillas said:

I can understand this take, it’s a gamble. I’m not convinced he can be a CEO as much as a basketball coach though. Indiana requires that, and I’d like proof first.

That's certainly reasonable. I'm optimistic that could support him with a really strong GM to help navigate some of the high D1 roster construction, and he would definitely need that. But not a guarantee and I cannot fault your skepticism. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Bob Knight didn’t work at Indiana after 1993. He wouldn’t work here today. It’s 2025. Hanging on to Bob Knight culture has been part of the problem at times. Many coaches have connections to Bob knight and have failed: Mike Woodson, Randy Wittman, Isiah Thomas, Pat Knight, etc. maybe it was just that Bob knight was a basketball genius in the 70s and 80s.

Mike Woodson the coach is about as far away from Bob Knight culture as one can possibly get. 

[MikeRoberts]

14 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Agree but it’s not beard. I promise. High donors have already said they won’t support it. I highly doubt Dolson divides that room. 
 

don’t mean to sound rude. Apologies. I just kindly disagree that bears would be hired. That’s all

All good, that’s what we’re here for. We need a winning culture, that could be like 10 guys perhaps, time will tell

[jimsorgi]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

I’d say it differently. Gotta trust the very smart people who have complete access and insight into the process.

Dolson is a very talented and experienced basketball guy.

So while I don’t think it’ll be Beard, if it is that means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his personal issues.

If it’s Wade? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his NCAA issues.

If it’s McCollum? That means our very smart basketball AD fully vetted his D1 inexperience issues.

Good point as well. We shouldn't assume that Dolson is working off the same information as we have because there's every reason to believe he has superior information. 

[Scotty R]

16 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

There are far more failures than successes so many more so it's easier to anecdotally point out the successes. If we're using data in this way, a mid major hire would be extremely risky. You have to 100% know, without a doubt, it's a winning bet. 

Of course there are hit and misses. What I am trying to show is that getting other top power conference coaches to leave is not very likely. There have been very few top jobs where you see a successful power conference coach leave for another one.

If you want a power conference coach it will more than likely be Beard, who I don't want or Brownell, Buzz Williams. If it was up to me I take McCollum over those type of coaches.

[Hoosier987]

8 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

All I am saying that those top power 4 coaches are more than likely not leaving their current job. I just think all of these rumors are going to get some of you upset because we probably are not going to get a top coach from a power conference.

Stevens very, very doubtful 

May No

TJO doubtful 

Drew doubtful 

Wright No

Bennett No

Few very, very doubtful 

After this who do you really think that a realistic candidate. Like I have said I would take my chances in McCollum over Beard

I understand your logic. Past history shows these would be “no’s.” Let’s see what happens…I have a feeling Dolson is getting a good one here.

[Stuhoo]

11 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

Good point as well. We shouldn't assume that Dolson is working off the same information as we have because there's every reason to believe he has superior information. 

Scott Dolson 1,000,000% has superior information.

That’s why I found that video stating that Dusty regularly talks up McCollum so interesting. Dusty is one of us even if he is at Michigan. And Dusty is tight with Dolson.